“We used to mark them ‘summer mix’ and put them in a soft case full of them in the car, which was the style at the time”
You would change your disc at a red light, as tradition tells
Pah, I had a CD-changer for 6 discs!
Is that the thing that holds the phone mount?
No no, the disc changer was in the glove box. The radio had a cassette player. I used it with one of those cassette adapters to connect my iRiver mp3 player.
I did it at 80 for style points
Help me out here
Nero Burning Rom was a popular program for burning CDs
I used Nero. Is this person I’m supposed to be aware of in the picture named Nero or something?
I’m no lepidopterist, but from context I’d guess that it is indeed Nero.
A much maligned Roman emperor, Nero supposedly (but almost certainly not actually) haughtily played some instrument or the other during the Great Fire of Rome.
Hence, “burning a CD-ROM” is easily associated with him even though the story is almost certainly not true and “ROM” (read only memory) was the suffix of the CDs that COULDN’T be burned 🤷
Honestly, this was some A-tier wordplay, especially considering that the company who made it is was German.
Absolutely!
Is that last bit a dig at German humour?
I hear it’s not a laughing matter.
I thought they studied butterflies?
They do, yes. I’m just doing a variant of the “I’m no geologist but (says things that have nothing to do with geology)” meme 😁
The best name for a piece of software I’ve ever read lol
Omfg I just got that 🤦
“Look grandpa, I found this box full of save icons in your old stuff”
And omg soo much retro porn which is now banned in the us
CDeez Nutz Burnin’
You like tapes and CDs?
How 'bout I tape my dick to your head so you can CDs nuts!?
There’s a cream for that
And a weed strain
CDs nuts!
Got em.
Wait until they hear we ripped them after burning them
Never. The audio equivalent of “Needs More JPEG”
I burned a CD just a few days ago.
I just punched a card yesterday.
I inscribed a clay tablet just this morning
I recited a saga an hour ago
I’m painting a cave wall right now.
It’s about that scumbag Ea-nāṣir, isn’t it?
His copper is subpar.
Why? What did the card ever do to deserve that?
It was a nasty piece of card.
They’re particularly nasty at this time of year
Winamp! (Winamp!) Winamp! It really whips the lamma’s ass!
;)
Yeah, it’s probably best you maintain some distance from winamp, especially if it’s been drinking.
This CD is not for your Stereo, it’s for your Computer!
Back in my day we burned a lot of CDs…
Funny to think that the same number of drives would fit into maybe 1/4 of this height if made in the slim form factor.
I made some DVDs for someone recently. First I had to dig out my old laptop that has a drive. Then install authoring and burning software.
All the help forum posts that I found were at least 15 years old, I’m amazed that any of the recommended software still existed.
I found that I still had two plastic tubes of DVD+Rs!
Linux has built-in in dvd burning and ripping tools that work amazingly. Been ripping all my ps1 and ps2 games.
FYI: unless you have a very specific model of CD drive, your PS1 backups aren’t perfect copies. They will work but the copy protection might not have been read properly. It’s not important in 99.9% of use cases. If you need a perfect copy, download NoIntro dumps.
Good info. Mine have been working well. But I still keep the hard copies I dont get rid of them. But yes disc rot is a thing though ive not experienced it
DVD-R or DVD-RW?
not the dvd+r dvd-r shit again
+R.
If you’d asked me, I’d have said that I always bought -R, but I guess I was different person back then.
You had to monitor the computer, if any program started or did anything weird, it could cause the entire disc to be destroyed, and you had to start over
99% finished
*Critical error, disc burning failed.*
Maybe it’s finally time to throw out the half finished pack of blank cds away. They’ve been sitting on my bookshelf for 20 years
I had a pack like that, tried to use them last year and every one of them failed to burn. Must have hit their shelf life somewhere along the way
I’m a school bus driver and I’m not even joking when I say I blew my kids’ minds with a burned CD the other day. My daughter asked me to make one of the KPop Demon Hunters soundtrack. One kid asked how I got it on CD and when I showed him a burned disc complete with sharpie label his response was just, “Wait you can do that?!”
Made me feel old as hell.
A CD is a Certificate of Deposit. You see, back in the 1900s, our parents had this thing called DISPOSABLE INCOME thought to be a myth, but trust me, it was real. People had so much money they wouldn’t starve to death if they didn’t work overtime.
Anyway, they needed a place to put it, so get this: they could deposit it into an account, and it would actually grow! Then they’d get a Certificate of Deposit to verify they really gave the bank the money because—guess what—it wasn’t a scam! They got the money back! I know, right? Amazing.
Cds are digital data storage discs that are etched in microscopic 1’s and 0’s in a microscopic spiral with a laser, and then later read back with lasers. You can only write them once but you can read them a million times. So grammatically, in the same way you “nuke” food in a microwave, you “burn” a cd in a cd drive that is capable of writing cds.
Maybe someday we can have cheap (cheaper than other storage media per gb), durable (last at least my lifetime), terabyte, fast read optical media. I would love to permanently store lots of stuff that doesn’t ever need to be rewritten.
Well you etch pits you don’t actually use numbers. Also it’s not a spiral, it’s not a record player it’s not been read by physical stylus so you don’t need a guide, they’re just concentric circles.
You start the disc off as a zero, then whenever you need to transition to a one you etch a pit, then it will continue to read that as one until you etch another pit and flip back to zero. So the sequence 0111001 would be etched as
_.__.__.Discs can also be overwritten, and used multiple times, you just wipe the entire top layer off and start again on the layer below, only really cheap CDs were single use.
As for the future there are already experimental crystal storage solutions (made out of artificial diamond so it would be essentially indestructible) which really are single use, but they can store hundreds of petabytes of data so you would probably just treat them as if they were rewritable. There’s also DNA storage but the equipment to save and read the data is nowhere near commercially viable yet.
Ngl, i didn’t know it was concentric circles. I always thought it was a spiral like a vinyl record.
Also the encode is pretty neat, I didn’t know that.
I DID know about RWs being rewritable, and you could sort of brute force some supposedly single write discs.
To be clear, I wrote that to be as simple as possible like if a person read it who really didn’t have any idea, they could have a relatively quick understanding in plain terms. Guess even I learned something today!
The pits just represent numbers. A 1-bit memory cell typically stores high or low voltage. The numbers 0 and 1 only exist as a platonic ideal, and there are many ways to represent them in the real world.
There’s a Bluray media called MDisc that’s supposed to be more durable. It says 1000 years so I give it 100 based on the fact that the 100 year rated Verbatim AZZO DVD+R’s that I burned and verified to have low PIO errors had errors after 10 years stored in black cases in my temperature controlled basement.
People claim their burned DVD’s are all fine but I’ve never heard a post back when I asked if they’ve actually verified all the bits. “It reads when I put it in.” doesn’t mean there isn’t data corruption.
I recently learned of MDisc (there’s a CD and DVD version, too, iirc) and decided to get a burner and convert my old data CDs.
While I haven’t verified every single bit, I did check that the files copied off of it were still functional and didn’t see any issues. Also didn’t get any errors. I was surprised because I’ve had some of them for over 20 years now and didn’t do more than put them in CD binders to protect them (during the days when I didn’t even consider the longevity of the media, other then obvious things like scratches.
Only disc I wasn’t able to get the data from was a packet CD, which was a special format that facilitated treating the disc more like diskettes, where you could read or write at will via the filesystem rather than writing the disc as a special package from the start (or having multiple sessions if there’s still room on the disc after one such write). I was able to find references to the tech, though not if it was a standard or just a name a few different companies used for different implementations, but I wasn’t able to find Linux drivers that could do anything other than rip the ISO and a few strings or tell me it can’t find anything. Though it’s possible that corruption is really what happened here because I’d expect RW CDs to last a shorter time than the write once ones.
Though I suppose I could try it on my old windows machine and see if drivers are more readily available there.
Were they CD or DVD? My CDs have lasted. It’s the DVD’s that had bit errors.
Yeah, those were CDs. I don’t think I got to the DVDs, since my sense of urgency faded after I saw the older ones seemed ok. I’ll have to check them out after you said that, though lol.
I think there are some optical media like that. the discs are cheap but the readers are made of mithril.
M-disc, I presume?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc - This one floundered and died before coming to market
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_optical_data_storage - A bunch of different solutions, and it looks like they were all being developed independently circa 2008, and then went nowhere
My guess is that there’s not much use case beyond archival backups. That’s not going to get the economies of scale that CDs/DVDs/Blu-rays have. It’d be priced for the enterprise market, but they already have perfectly good archival backup solutions. You’d also have to prove that it can be durable for at least a few decades, but even for commercial duplication, previous optical formats are just OK at best on longevity.
huh, I could have sworn there was a format for long-term archival, like 50+ years. I guess the GitHub Arctic Code Vault project went with microfilm using some very custom equipment to produce it all. but maybe everyone just uses tape (which is fun! but a bit less durable, and more finicky about being stored well)
