I read people say online that Americans are loud. What does this mean, exactly? Is it literal volume or is it our personality/presentation? Something else?

I may be moving to Australia because of my wife’s job, and I want to better understand this. I want to assimilate and I don’t want to be annoying. I’m personally pretty low key and listen more than speak, but this is my perception of myself.

  • THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world
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    As a Midwestern American, my girlfriend and I went abroad on a trip that happens to be where cruise ships dock. We did not take a cruise. However, the most annoying people we met on the entire trip were southerners from the US. Just everything about them was the worst. Every stereotype you can imagine was being presented. They were god fearing and cheeto loving, and they made it known. We weren’t even in the US, for fuck’s sake. The cherry on top, for me, was every single American store we passed on the tour bus, one of them had to yell the name of the store. “SAYAM’S CLUHHHB”…“WAYNDEES” Like, can you shut the fuck up? It was, right then, in that exact moment, it hit me like a bolt of lightning, no wonder people say Americans are loud and annoying. Because the vocal yokels absolutely are.

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      Oof. We Americans are such douchebags sometimes. Hello fellow Midwesterner! I’m in the Chicago area myself currently.

      Thanks for your insight and anecdote!

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    Another factor, there’s so few of you that escape the country (only 48% of you have a passport) that the only ones folks in EU mostly see are;

    • the wealthy assholish ones 😡
    • the plucky risk taking ones on holiday on a couple pennies and a dream 😁
    • people here on business trips 😐
    • the influencers 🤢
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      This is absolutely true. The American Dream carrot keeps us from spending and learning about others. If we did that, we might have some legit options that help the people. We don’t want that though!

      Thanks for the reply!

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    So here’s a Canadian answer.

    I have found that, on average, Americans speak at a higher volume than folks from my country. At the same time, they seem more willing to share things that we wouldn’t except in more familiar company. I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing, but there are times when I would recommend a touch more discretion.

    For the most part I think you’ll be fine in Australia. Just whatever you do, DON’T support Collingwood and DON’T drink Fosters.

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      Ha! Thank you for the comment.

      Fosters? Seriously? When there are craft brews? I’m going to be drink the craft or wines…I just wish weed was legal.

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    Volume for sure, but also Americans seem to be largely incapable of experiencing silence. They tend to fill silence as if they love the sound of their own voice.

    Obviously this isn’t all Americans, and my only experience of Americans are when they’re tourists.

    You say you listen more than you speak so you’re probably fine. Even just asking about how to not be annoying shows you have more self awareness than any American I’ve ever met

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      Thank you so much for your reply!

      The constant talking thing is definitely cultural. Americans get nervous during silence in conversations because we think there is something wrong like we’re not interesting or people don’t value us or something. It’s absolutely our own stupid hang up.

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    Let me put it this way: When I am in a restaurant/bar/pub/similar place, I can’t follow the conversations of the people at the other tables. However, with US-Americans, I understand every single word, even if they’re two tables over. Their normal conversational volume is just so much higher. To them, it is completely normal, and they don’t seem to notice. To us, they’re speaking very loudly, as if everyone were hard of hearing, or as if we were on a construction site.

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    I went to Geneva, Switzerland when I was in college. There was a public square with about 1000 Swiss eating at different tables, all leaning forward like they were telling secrets. We 6 American college students were louder than all the 1000 Swiss in the square, by volume.

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      Wow. Any reason why you kept going? If I noticed that then I would probably mimic others nearby.

      Thanks for your reply!

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      We 6 American college students were louder than all the 1000 Swiss in the square, by volume.

      You noticed this and just kept going?

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    People from the Netherlands are loud too.

    It’s something about when you guys walk around in a larger group. Most of you just have a higer volume setting. Like you are trying to get heard by every bystander as well. When hiking through the Balkans I could hear Americans from far away.

    Australians seem te be loud as well so you’ll be fine I guess…

    But who’s generalizing?

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      I don’t know who this General Izing is, but they sound like a controversial figure!

      Ha! Thank you for your comment.

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    8 hours ago

    As an Australian, I took up baseball because the crowd is far more pleasant than the Aussie Rules football mob.

    You’ll be fine. Half of Australia doesn’t have an “inside” voice.

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    13 hours ago

    I think it just means louder that most (but not all) of the other people. I didn’t think much of it until I had some American friends visit me and I took them to bar near where I live. I didn’t really noticed anything while we were all sitting together.

    When I crossed the room to go to the bar for another round, then I noticed that I could clearly hear my American friends voices above everyone one else in the room. I could clearly hear their conversation from across the bar. They were just speaking somewhat louder than everyone else.

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      10 hours ago

      Very interesting!

      Someone else made a comment that I found interesting which was about how Americans usually speak far apart compared with other cultures that lower their voices and lean in. It has me thinking about how much space we have here and the ingrained competition which makes us naturally speak louder.

      Another thing after talking to my wife is that there are a lot of large American families and children vie for the attention of others, which means having to speak up and over their siblings which sort of trains us to be that way.

      It’s all fascinating to me to think about. Thank you for your answer!

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        Another thing after talking to my wife is that there are a lot of large American families and children vie for the attention of others, which means having to speak up and over their siblings which sort of trains us to be that way.

        Mmmm, it’s a theory I suppose but I have a large family. Our dinner table is busy but not loud (except with raucous laughter which is semi frequently in fairness). Cross conversations go on all the time, it’s just the nature of lots of people at a table.

        My own experience with American tourists is that it’s a volume thing. Interestingly I don’t recall noticing it as much while visiting the states but definitely slightly louder than other cultures.

        Sounds like you won’t have any issue anyway.

        Good luck with the move! I’ve never heard anyone come back from Australia with a bad word to say about it and lots of my fellow countryfolk do a year there (including my sister and bestie).

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          Thank you! I’m hoping we end up moving there because I loved my visit there a couple of years ago and I would love to be there always.

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    I wonder how true this is now or if its something that is more from last millenia. With everyone on their phones now I just can’t imagine its quite the same. Granted every so often you run into the person with their speakers playing the game/media sounds rather than earbuds.

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    It means the other country is perpetuating stereotypes.

    Let me tell you a few more:

    • French are dirty
    • Parisians are all supermodels or pick pockets
    • English politeness is just their passive aggressive bullshit
    • Japanese are rude as shit
    • Germans are robots
    • Mexicans are lazy
    • Canadians are overly polite
    • Italians are way too passionate
    • Australians are way too laid back
    • Icelanders fuck a lot
    • South Africans are racist assholes

    To be clear, I don’t agree with or believe any of the above, I am just telling you the stereotypes.

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      Absolutely. It’s a fair point. People are people and should be judged on their individual basis.

      Thank you for your answer.

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    I flew back to America from Tokyo today and as a frequent traveler to Japan I can tell you it’s all of the above. As a very introverted, easily overstimulated person I love going to Japan because it’s my ‘quiet time’. Coming home I’m usually overwhelmed by the sheer noise of being in America.

    1. People simply speak louder than they need to here. In Japan you speak in a hushed voice unless it’s necessary to raise it. Also people aren’t afraid to lean in a little closer to hear what is being said to them. In America people stand 2 meters away from each other and have to speak loud enough for the whole room to hear
    2. People speak more and don’t value quiet time. In Japan you don’t speak on trains. Your inane conversation can wait. Its more pleasant for everyone if you just stay quiet. Then an American tourist boards and everyone in the car gets to hear all about their opinions on some anime whether they want to or not
    3. People tent to interject / interrupt more here

    Hopefully this didn’t come across too much as venting. I can’t wait to go back.

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      Thank you for your answer! It’s definitely not coming across as venting. You have some great thoughts and the idea about standing further away when speaking really hits home to me as something I’ve been thinking might be part of the reason for our loudness as I’ve been reading other answers.

      Thanks for the Tokyo insight as well. Our family has booked a trip to Japan this Fall, so we’ve been trying to brush up on culture and language as best we can so we aren’t total assholes over there. 😂

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    You talk loud and don’t shut the fuck up. Yes, you have an opinion on everything. Yes, you think your country’s great. Yes, you think you are great also. Shut up.

    I remember being on holiday in Thailand, visiting a village that very clearly had set aside an area as a market for tourists. The Americans decided to have a conversation between one area and another about heading off to look at the village school or whatever. EVERYBODY ELSE, locals and tourists, could tell this specific area was for tourists, but the USAians just couldn’t read the room and had to loudly talk about it. JFC it was painful to witness.

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      10 hours ago

      Thank you for your answer. We Americans can be very stupid when it comes to reading the room and observing things for sure.

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    Sometimes literally loud(New Jersey residents raise your hands), but usually also overbearing, painfully extroverted, having to control conversations, injecting themselves into what didn’t need them, etc.

    I’m not judging from the outside. As an American that at one time was married to an Australian, we met when I was stationed there and we were both at the same base so I would see how my squadmates behaved then later when they had gone off to the racks, I’d get to hear the Aussie service members mock and laugh at some of the behaviors of the guys I came over with. They would joke that I had to be an immigrant because I rarely talked.

    It’s not an “all Americans do this” type of thing, it’s that the Americans that do this are so impactful in a negative way that it becomes a cliched caricature. If you’re not that type of person, you won’t need to do anything to assimilate, you’ll fit in just fine. Those folks were some of the best people I’ve ever met in my life and they were very welcoming and inclusive.

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      19 hours ago

      Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply! Your last paragraph is pretty much what I was thinking, but I also wanted to gather some opinions.

      I will just be myself and hopefully be one of the ones that leaves a great impression. I am finishing my masters degree in elementary education and I hope to eventually get a job teaching over there if we move. I am so excited to learn their culture and history. It’ll be an awesome experience to have my knowledge and learn theirs while sharing between us.