They shouldn’t be able to do that!

  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
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    11 days ago

    yes, we all want some censorship.

    Speak for yourself.

    defederation is censorship.

    instance bans are censorship.

    community bans are censorship.\

    And I disagree with them.

    is your position that none of those should be allowed?

    My position is that it should all be up to the user. Let me block instances and communities if I don’t want to see them. Let me choose what content I want to see. I don’t need some mods deciding what is and isn’t acceptable based on their ideologies and beliefs, because as we all know and see every day, most abuse that power almost all the time.

    if so, thats a wild position to take, but you should say it with your full chest at least.

    It’s not wild at all, and I have never tried to hide it. I’ve said it openly many, many times on Lemmy. I think all censorship is bad. Only weak minded people want or need censorship.

    Nice attempted “gotcha” though.

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      4 days ago

      But that’s the right off the mod and the admin to express themselves through blocking and defederation. It sounds like you’re supporting compelled speech

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        3 days ago

        It sounds like you’re supporting compelled speech

        How on earth do you come to that conclusion? Do you even know what “compelled speech” is? What is it?

        I know you don’t know btw, but I will have a good laugh at you trying to explain it.

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          3 days ago

          You seem to be against letting people control who says what on their own servers.
          It’s not a stretch to imagine you want that enshrined in law.
          Forcing someone to keep content available on their own servers by law is forced speech, because refusing to serve content from their own servers is a form of speech (assuming you’re American, because, yanno) (in this case, the forced speech was deemed legal, but still forced speech).

          You’re saying you’re not just for the freedom of speech (government cannot silence you) you’re anti-censorship (nobody can silence you), which means nothing without the ability to protect it.

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                17 hours ago

                If you’re censoring someone then you don’t want free speech. If you’re hosting a platform for discussion and you start banning people and deleting posts etc, you’re being authoritarian and you are demonstrating that you don’t think free speech should be allowed.

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                  6 hours ago

                  If a private citizen removing your content from their own privately owned server is interfering with your right to free speech
                  The forcing a private citizen to serve your content from their privately owned server is forced speech, by the same arguments.
                  Which makes you an authoritarian demonstrating that you think forced speech should be allowed.
                  Simple as.

                  You’re allowed to say it, but I’m not forced to repeat it on your behalf using my servers. You can say it using your own servers, or the servers of someone who agrees with you.

                  The right to not say something is an aspect of free speech that you don’t seem to support.