Isn’t this meme making fun of the enlightened centre? Is that even a thing anymore? I’m a 90s kid and I thought I am a liberal. But it looks like liberals are fascists themselves now.
Not to mention that outside the US many words have a completely different (most the time more accurate) meaning. I am genuinely confused.
The overton window is completely out of the boathouse and somewhere on the bottom of the lake. We have no solid ideological framework in the US anymore, it’s all entirely branches of capital trying to jockey for the most reward.
It’s complicated. Basically, the farthest left we have in the US are the social liberals, which is left of center on social issues (gay marriage, trans rights, feminism) but still not very left economically (at best you get milquetoast support of unions, but they still take bribes from the corporations and legislate in their favor).
SocLibs are the enlightened center, but also as far left as we go politically.
Overturning Citizens United and increasing the effective corporate tax rate has been a core DNC stance for over a decade and a half, so I disagree that they’re not left economically.
Yeah the term “liberal” has become a bit of a pejorative term, at least on Lemmy. The people it’s used to describe are liberal on the surface, but are still pawns to the capitalist machine, same as the right/conservatives/MAGA/alt-right.
The word liberal at its heart literally means someone who supports market liberalism or laissez-faire economics. In the US the word liberal is used as shorthand for a neoliberal, which is someone who supports free market fundamentals while understanding that some form of social safety nets are necessary (but also optional). The common US liberal might say we need to care about the marginalized, but ultimately seems themselves as above being marginalized. Conservatives are the old school liberals who think social safety nets are never necessary or optional. So yeah a liberal in the context of today’s social-economic-political landscape isn’t much different than a conservative.
Isn’t this meme making fun of the enlightened centre? Is that even a thing anymore? I’m a 90s kid and I thought I am a liberal. But it looks like liberals are fascists themselves now.
Not to mention that outside the US many words have a completely different (most the time more accurate) meaning. I am genuinely confused.
I know I’m liberal, I support human rights and equality.
The overton window is completely out of the boathouse and somewhere on the bottom of the lake. We have no solid ideological framework in the US anymore, it’s all entirely branches of capital trying to jockey for the most reward.
It’s complicated. Basically, the farthest left we have in the US are the social liberals, which is left of center on social issues (gay marriage, trans rights, feminism) but still not very left economically (at best you get milquetoast support of unions, but they still take bribes from the corporations and legislate in their favor).
SocLibs are the enlightened center, but also as far left as we go politically.
Overturning Citizens United and increasing the effective corporate tax rate has been a core DNC stance for over a decade and a half, so I disagree that they’re not left economically.
Yeah the term “liberal” has become a bit of a pejorative term, at least on Lemmy. The people it’s used to describe are liberal on the surface, but are still pawns to the capitalist machine, same as the right/conservatives/MAGA/alt-right.
The word liberal at its heart literally means someone who supports market liberalism or laissez-faire economics. In the US the word liberal is used as shorthand for a neoliberal, which is someone who supports free market fundamentals while understanding that some form of social safety nets are necessary (but also optional). The common US liberal might say we need to care about the marginalized, but ultimately seems themselves as above being marginalized. Conservatives are the old school liberals who think social safety nets are never necessary or optional. So yeah a liberal in the context of today’s social-economic-political landscape isn’t much different than a conservative.