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      Why? They are tools designed to make deadly weapons deadlier, they absolutely should be regulated.

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        As a card carrying member of the Socialist Rifle Association, and someone in their 50’s I can tell you that they serve a legitimate purpose. While suppressors don’t actually make firearms ‘silent’, they do reduce the sound by a significant amount. Traditional Ear Protection helps, but doesn’t eliminate the noise entirely. It also does nothing if you happen to take your earpro out for any reason and someone else shoots.

        If you do a lot of target practice they can really help save your hearing.

        They do nothing to make the weapons deadlier, though you could argue that in very specific and unusual circumstance it could make it easier for a killer to kill someone without getting caught.

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          I understand they don’t make a gun silent, I’m not falling for any Hollywood myths here. But I also know that hearing protection isn’t the reason why militaries and gun nuts are buying them. I know a gun with a suppressor is still loud as shit, but from where I’m sitting, anything that prolongs catching/stopping a shooter is something that makes the shooter more deadly. And for that reason, it absolutely should be regulated.

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            Alright, so, no one here seems to be prior military. Yes, actually, that’s exactly why militaries use them. So, for the practical, it’s really fucking hard to communicate during a firefight and I promise you any sort of assistance is nice. Being able to communicate is a major factor to being an effective force.

            Second, it costs the government a lot of money in disability. A lot. Pretty sure tinnitus is the most common issue paid out.

            Source: former infantryman.

  • CH3DD4R_G0B-L1N@sh.itjust.works
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    Don’t do that. Don’t be yet another “progressive political” movement that goes down the gun control warpath.

    “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”

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        Yeah man, fuck our lack of school shootings and our radically reduced gun-related violence! We’re the worst!

        Not that I’m saying that would work in America - Australia has safer (though not perfect) law enforcement.

        If I were American, I’d probably also fiercely advocate to keep my guns, too. When your own country can’t guarantee safety, you have to.

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          I don’t read their comment as critical of Australia. It’s just that if you’re establishing a scale of gun reform, Australia is at the extreme end. In the US, full Australia isn’t a realistic goal.

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            Extreme end? You mean the fucking normal, everyday, global method of not letting psychos and kids have guns? Yeah, so extreme. Amercian’s have the weirdest fetishes.

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        Yes, we can.

        The three pieces of “common sense” gun control that we need are:

        1. 50-state reciprocity / National Concealed Carry licensure. It is obscene that a perfectly legal act performed by a person with no criminal record whatsoever, suddenly becomes an aggravated felony, simply by crossing a state line.

        2. Public Access to NICS. A private seller should be able to ask a buyer for proof of a background check, and be able to verify that proof with NICS. Private sales are legal in most states, but private sellers have no access to conduct a background check. This leaves us with the absurd scenario where a private seller can sell to anyone. So long as the buyer doesn’t indicate they are a felon, the seller can’t be prosecuted, because there is no reasonable way for them to know. Provide that reasonable way, and such sellers can be prosecuted.

        3. Remove silencers from the National Firearms Act. A prohibition on making guns quieter is a mandate for hearing damage.

        Three common sense gun control measures we could and should implement immediately. Three common sense gun control measures that are broadly rejected by centrists claiming to be progressive.

        The idiotic measures that Hillarycrats keep pushing - like Universal Background Checks, Assault Weapons Bans, Magazine Limits, Waiting Periods - are not “common sense”. They are wildly unpopular attacks on mainstream gun owners.