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Ready player one.

That has to be one of the cringiest movies I’ve seen, is tries so hard, too hard with it’s “WE LOVE YOU NERD, YOU’RE SO COOL FOR PLAYING GAMES AND GETTING THIS 80S REFERENCE” message and the whole “corporation bad, the people good” narrative seems written for toddlers… The fan service feels cheap and adds nothing to the story.

Finally, they trying to make the people believe that very attractive girl with a barely visible red tint spot on her face is “ugly”… Like wtf?

Yet it received decent reviews plus being one of the most successful movies of that year.

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    1 year ago

    James Cameron’s Avatar series.

    Then again… Does anyone actually like it? It seems to have all this online hype when it’s such a boring visual spectacle.

    It’s like the opposite of the other Avatar franchise, which wasn’t a commercial hit, and seems less popular on paper, but seems to have a massive cultural impact.

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    23 days ago

    Oh wow you just described my distaste for all Lego movies and Wreck it Ralph.

    I’ve never seen Ready Player One because it sounds just like these movies and you just confirmed it.

    The Millenial nostalgia train is so very cringe, it tries way too hard to make us feel like our time was the peak of culture and it’s patronizing.

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    Napoleon dynamite was fucking garbage and don’t think it should have ever existed. No humor and barley anything. Honestly feel like the movie rubber was better

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      What?!?

      What?!?

      As an older millennial, that movie was a work of art. I was about 20 when I seen it, stoned, and I couldn’t stop laughing.

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        23 days ago

        When this movie came out, between the hype and fandom I just couldn’t stand it. Didn’t watch it until it had been about 5 years because of my personal cringe factor with the whole thing.

        Once I watched it, I still didn’t get it but the fucking movie kept playing in my head so I rewatched it. Fully fell in love and I still watch it abt 5x a year because it’s one of my comfort movies.

        Yeah it’s dumb, pointless, and I honestly wouldn’t recommend it for a first time watcher today. But I fucking love it, it’s a soothing balm to my soul and gives me momentary respite from all … this.

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    Oh I have another one. Thor Ragnarok. People loved it because they liked the Thor character and found his earlier films too dull or something, but I loved that they were unapologetically serious about themselves, using comedy in ways that felt very authentic to the characters.

    But Ragnarok? It came out later the same year as this excellent essay about bathos, and it was dripping in it. I was hyper tuned to the problem with bathos, and it leaned even harder into that took than nearly any other MCU film did.

    What sucks so much is that it had the bones of a really good dramatic story. The Bruce Banner/Hulk storyline had built up over multiple previous films, and come the climax of this film it’s established that he’s in Bruce form now and has enough control to stay that way, but if he transforms into Hulk it’ll be a big deal and he may never be able to be himself again. So they arrive in Asgard at the climax of the film and it’s pretty urgent. In a dramatic moment you can see him steel himself to make the sacrifice; he jumps out of their aircraft onto the rainbow bridge, clearly intending to transform into Hulk to fight Fenris.

    …and he splats. Faceplants on the bridge. Still in human form. It’s played for laughs. The ultimate conclusion of Hulk’s story in this movie and probably the most important moment of his arc over the entire MCU to this point, and it’s undercut by a joke. Not even a very funny one. A slapstick joke that would make Charlie Chaplin cringe.

    And it means nothing, because the very next shit, he’s transformed anyway and throwing Fenris around like a doll.

    Not to mention it undermines the verisimilitude of the movie. I can suspend my disbelief in these movies pretty hard, but Bruce Banner, in human form, is meant to be painfully average, physically speaking. He should have died from that fall, given he didn’t transform. That’s certainly not the worst thing about the moment, but it is was the sprinkling of salt on top of the wound that just made it that little bit worse.

    That moment was the worst bit, but the film as a whole was full of lazy humour and bathos, and it was really just the worst example of what was wrong with a lot of MCU movies at the time. I was shocked to hear so few people came away disliking it in the same way I did.

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      I’m sorry but all the previous Thor movies (and the one after this) are ASS. Ragnarok is the only good Thor movie.

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    Lord of the Rings.

    I understand and respect the seminal role LotR (Book) has as a fantasy work. I have to, as a fantasy nerd myself.

    I also believe that those three movies that everyone loves could be edited down into one and not much would be lost.

    God DAMN do those films drag ON and ON and ON.

    The books, too, drag on like Tolkien was being paid by the individual word. Thankfully with books I can set the pace at which things go.

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      I also believe that those three movies that everyone loves could be edited down into one and not much would be lost.

      Just factually wrong on this one, sorry. I can prove it, too:

      The films we have right now are already severely cut versions of the story and many people agree that we lost some good shit in that cutting

      As someone who did gonna school: how exactly could you cut Fellowship any further without completely removing something essential? That movie is on fast forward it has so little time to get through the story

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    Donnie Darko.

    It was so overhyped back when it came out because the OG hipster crowd of the early 90s thought it was cool, as did younger people who valued things that were “indie” as if that inherently adds value.

  • Tolkein.

    I tried watching the new tolkein Rohirrim movie. There were clues I would hate it already, but they started with one of those ‘tolkein songs’ like by elves or whatever ~one of the ones where he’s like modeling the dialect on some euro language and being a nerd with glasses in the library holding up a schematic of what he just made and being like, “it’s music”. So it started with that and I was done. did not get past opening song.

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    Disney’s Hercules.

    Because it completely butchers greek mythology. Of course, that’s to be expected from a kid’s movie (especially Disney) but I’ve been a greek mythology fan from an early age and this movie really disappointed me as a child.

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    Harry Potter.

    Before JK went mask off, I had dropped the books about half way though for being increasing annoyed with how they ended. Never any change to the status quo except Harry actually regressing in character development. I watched the first movie, but that was around when I dropped the books and never looked back.

    I was able to just quietly keep my opinions to myself, but with with JK becoming increasing unhinged with both her tweets and books, I haven’t felt the need to be polite with the “separate the art from the artists” types. Especially when they just assume that you’re a fan if you don’t correct them.

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      I’m just gonna hop on to say that there is zero world building in Harry Potter. I know that’s because it was written for a youngish audience, but like the only things that are ever built on are used directly for the story in that book, then mostly left alone.

      No one comes back years later with a Time Turner and wrecks havoc, for instance.

      The few comparisons to Tolkien I’ve heard of her works are so unbelievably unfounded and off base.

      Not to mention she’s a TERF

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        I’m just gonna leave Shaun’s review here.

        Harry Potter unintentionally made a whole subgenre of fiction that could be called “Harry Potter, but fixed”. Little Witch Academia’s workers union episode was great and Reign of the Seven Spellblades is a mid, but still fun anime that seemingly takes aim at opposing Harry Potter and JK(specifically, her anti-trans shit) at every turn. I haven’t read it, but Shaun seems to think that The Hog Father is a direct reaction to the house elf shit in HP.

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          Hogfather as in the Discworld novel? I could have sworn that was older than Harry Potter.

          Edit: it is, but surprisingly only one year older than the first Harry Potter book.

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      JK Rowling holds a very common position amongst older feminists and really doesn’t deserve the constant rape threats for funding women’s refuges. I’m pushing back on the party line here, and no, I don’t believe trans people deserve to be killed, or any bullshit like that. I promise to hide them in my non-existent attic if it comes to that.

      Edit: the books did get progressively worse after the third or possibly fourth one, though, and the films aren’t very good.

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        Her or her friends are running those charities. It’s a way to hide money from tax collectors.

        Looking back with adult eyes, her books push a very pro-Class based society. That’s why nothing ever changes.

        Edit: The books got progressively worse because JK wrangled more and more control away from her editor.

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          I help run an orphanage. That’s when I found out there’s no way to contact Lumos. They claim they help children with parents stay out of orphanages, and I wanted to contact them about such a situation but it was literally impossible.

          As for your edit: absolutely. Those books desperately needed editing.

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          I’m not sure about the ownership of foundations, charitable funds and the like; some degree of corruption wouldn’t surprise me unfortunately.

          I will say that she won’t have been deliberately pushing class-stratification given her socioeconomic background, however the whole setting is heavily influenced by Victorian-era children’s novels about boarding school adventures which were absolutely saturated with classism.

          They surely needed a team of editors towards the end.

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            JK was never poor. Her “homelessness” was couch surfing between friend’s houses in Edinburgh.

            If she didn’t approve of the class system, then why was the sorting hat never wrong? Having kids switch houses between school years would have been an easy to to signal character development for a younger audience. Her class system is depicted as shitty, but something you just have to accept as true and deal with to become stronger. Look at how they treat the one character to oppose slavery. Even our MC, who’s an outsider to the wizard world thinks it’s weird to be opposed to slavery.