• Deceptichum@quokk.au
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    6 days ago

    Damn putting that zionist h3 crap under left is not giving me much hope of any actual left being represented in the blue.

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      5 days ago

      H3 calls netanyahu a monster, but more importantly, Palestine vs Israel is not a left vs right conflict.

      The reason this list is more right than left is because the criterias used are based on some arbitrary opinion or the amount of times someone has been called right leaning, rather than actual stances, otherwise some of these red circles would be blue. H3 is without a doubt left leaning.

      Pretty sure anynone who is for universal basic income and free healthcare should be blue no matter what the other stances are, and I know some of these red ones are for these things.

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        5 days ago

        Palestine vs Israel is not a left vs right conflict.

        Colonialism and genocide certainly are leftist issues.

        H3 is piece of shit who defends the IDF bombing hospitals, denies reports of sexual abuses suffered by Palestinians, and spreads general zionist propaganda. Who gives a fuck what he thinks of Netanyahu, his position is clear.

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          5 days ago

          No, he is against IDF bombing hospitals, he also doesn’t deny sexual abuses suffered by Palestinians and he also doesn’t spread Zionist propaganda. You’ve watched too much Hasan Piker (who did deny reports of sexual abuse during the Hamas attack by the way). Pretty sure all your points were cleared up during the debate between them.

          Colonialism and genocide are bipartisan issues that is unanimously agreed on.

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        5 days ago

        Pretty sure anynone who is for universal basic income and free healthcare

        “Universal” here obviously not including Palestinians

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          5 days ago

          I’m sure you didn’t mean to sound like the following just now:

          “How can you advocate for social welfare when there is a literal genocide going on?”

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              5 days ago

              I mean that’s exactly what you sounded like.

              So sick and tired of the Palestine bullshit being dragged into every conversation.

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                5 days ago

                I mean that’s exactly what you sounded like.

                No, that’s just you lazily strawmanning

                So sick and tired of the Palestine bullshit

                Yeah, how dare people make a big deal about the modern Holocaust. Don’t they know that non-westerners aren’t really human?

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                  5 days ago

                  I would actually like a clarification of what you meant, because to me it sounded like you think someone’s stance in the Israel-Palestine conflict is many times more defining of left/right than even Universal basic income which is considered by many to be communism.

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                    5 days ago

                    Well, for one thing, if you support Israel’s genocide, you can’t really also say you support universal income without torturing the definition of universal. For another: yes, I do think whether you support the modern holocaust is many times more definitional than where you think the government should give you UBI.

                    And finally, UBI is only considered to be communism by people who have no idea what communism is. No actual communist thinks that.

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                    5 days ago

                    Oof, if you’re going to resort to lazy personal attacks, you could at least make them good ones