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In 1972 the Swedish prime minister gave a christmas speech to the nation comparing the US actions in Vietnam to WW2 massacres. Only swedish article on it on wikipedia: https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olof_Palmes_jultal_1972
This amazing man was a Social Democrat! Nowadays, the actual left party is far to the right of where he was in the seventies. That’s how far the window has shifted. His speech on prejudice still gives me goose bumps every time I hear it. Palme was a rare gem.
Based
Too based unfortunately, dude got shot dead
Sweden supported the Vietcong during the war.
As anyone in their right mind should have. 💚
Vietnam is one of the reasons I have hope for Ukraine. The North Vietnamese were overwhelmingly outgunned and outmanned. But they had a “win or die” mentality and spent the better part of two decades forcing the enemy to play whack-a-mole until everybody got bored and went home.
Another analogy would be that the Ukrainian defense is being propped up by foreign military aid to fight indefinitely, similarly to the South Vietnamese puppet regime, which promptly collapsed when the US pulled back.
That’s not to conflate the legitimate Ukrainian fight against Russian invasion with the US’ immoral campaign against (North) Vietnamese liberation from colonialism or to detract from Ukraine’s agency and determination. However, the reliance on foreign assistance, particularly from Russian friendly regimes like the US, might prove precarious in the coming months.
I know the history of the Shit show of what was Vietnam but I’ve never considered what would have happened had the u.s stayed out. Any more info on that?
South Vietnam is overrun shortly after the coup of Ngo Dinh Diem, Ho Chi Minh potentially isn’t sidelined by hardliners in the North Vietnamese government, Vietnam becomes Communist but with much less bloodshed and, potentially, a less authoritarian and dogmatic regime.
Vietnam woulda gone to war if we hadn’t intervened to prop them up and end the war.
It woulda been more war.
Just … probably shorter and less napalmy.
But all those Vietnam inspired rock songs we would have never gotten!
I mean, on the one hand no piece of art is worth hundreds of thousands of human lives, but on the other, Fortunate Son… 🤷
AND the underrepresented hidden gem video games we got but wish we could get again.
A modern battlefield Vietnam? Yes please.
I know, Pooh, I know: https://youtu.be/G3rH8TyOjTU