• masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    4 months ago

    If you think you can actually radicalise liberals you probably haven’t tried talking to them during an election year.

    It’s much easier to de-extremify (or even radicalise) a fascist than a liberal, and the reason why is pretty clear to me now - liberals are far, far more invested in the maintenance of the status quo than the rank-and-file fascist is.

      • Soulg@ani.socialEnglish
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        4 months ago

        Idiotic comments like this continuing to be made will never make sense. How can you be this stupid but also on the left

      • masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        4 months ago

        I still won’t believe that leaving a black woman holding the bag the Dems took turns shitting in when it became obvious that they were utterly losing is some kind of coincidence.

          • masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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            4 months ago

            Tl;dr:

            I’m not disagreeing with you.

            No point in wasting time on them anymore.

            I’m afraid it goes a lot deeper than that. I don’t think the left really grasps the true nature of the relationship between liberalism and fascism. Biden had to lose to allow the other lot in… if liberals are seen to wield the stick (as opposed to the carrot), liberalism becomes useless to the ruling elites. And that’s really the way our (so-called) “liberal democracies” have always worked - the liberals do the lying, the fascists do… the other stuff. The only difference now is that the Oct 7th attack has shone a spotlight on a lib regime and caught them with their hands stuck inside the genocide cookie jar.

            This is something all antifascists will have to grapple with - it doesn’t matter how good you become at beating up fascists… if you are only beating up fascists you are only hurting the part of the weed that’s growing above ground. If we can’t find effective ways of problematising and confronting liberals and liberalism itself, we are simply playing wack-a-mole… until the liberals hand the mole the keys to all the tanks, of course.