• XenGi@feddit.org
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    5 days ago

    Friendly reminder for people with SEPA capability that https://bezahlbrudi.jetzt/ exists. Don’t use PayPal. Just use your bank. (Doesn’t help with shops, but at least for that pizza night where John paid for everyone and now wants your share for the big pepperoni)

  • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    Another friendly reminder that PayPal is not a bank. They don’t carry FDIC insurance. They aren’t regulated like a bank and you agree that they can do fuck all to your money at any time for any reason or no reason.

    In other words,

    STOP USING PAYPAL!

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    6 days ago

    PayPal can and will steal your money because fuck you, that’s why, and you’re left with basically zero recourse.

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        6 days ago

        Are there more legal protections for crypto payment processors than traditional payment processors? My understanding is that there’s less regulation in the crypto space these days.

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          Cryptocurrencies themselves are automated, self sustaining systems - no regulation applies at that level at all. In reality crypto “payment processors” provide services of instant exchange to regular currencies, and aren’t even mandatory (but they’re very convenient).

          So regulation applies, but only to optional middleman that perform conversion and send regular currency to the merchant

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            6 days ago

            So when dealing with volume purchases via a secondary store front (as established in the article) doesn’t need any kind of intercession from Steam or another processor to deal with any and all purchases? It’s all completely autonomous with no intervention needed by anyone at all?

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              As long as merchant doesn’t need to convert from crypto to regular currency, no third party is involved in the transaction, it’s a direct P2P system - in other words - perfect digital cash

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                6 days ago

                So you just need to say “I give this person .001 bitcoin” and they magically get it? That’s wild to me.

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                  6 days ago

                  Well, you take their address, sign a message with your private key saying .001 bitcoin goes there and propagate it over the network. But in very simple terms yep, bitcoins magically land on their address. Whole thing sustains itself on economic incentives and cryptography, without any central authority

      • Weslee@lemmy.world
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        6 days ago

        Yep, same, I did some competitions with a friend, they sent me my half of the winnings via PayPal, his account is hacked and the hacker for some reason tries to claim back all the winnings. Even though the hacker only got access once and my friend was in constant contact with PayPal, they still dragged it out for months and months, every week sending me warning about my account being in debt despite the fact my friend had already told them about the hack and proven his identity.

        It’s funny that a hacker with a random IP and no verification can fuck my life up for 6+ months with a single click, but my friend with all is documents and login history can’t convince PayPal they need to stop trying to take ~£60k off me.

        As soon as it was finally sorted I deleted my PayPal.