I think when it comes to blocking people, I can see some improvement there. I’m all about the idea of not adding fuel to the fire in the form of pointless online arguments and conflicts.

I see so many online platforms just fucking fail at the ways they try approaching that issue. Most places would let you block a user but they can still see everything that the blocked user has said. Like that opens the doors to exploiting and archiving. It is one thing if you’re logged out and can see things site-wide than it is still being logged in and seeing what was said.

When I block someone, I want to be a ghost to them. I want them to not see anything I’ve said and I wouldn’t want to see anything they’ve said either. I don’t want to block them and find out they engage me on an alt just with things to continue the bullshit with.

I think the Fediverse has corrected that aspect that, when you log off, you can’t see shit. So it prevents that. Though that’s practiced from the instance I’m on for all I know.

However, when logged in and still blocking people, they can still see what was said by those who blocked them.

Furthermore and this is a bit of a controversial part, is that, I think moderation logs to be open is a bad idea. Again, it is to me, just one more thing to add to the fuel of a fire that isn’t being let to wind down. Because people often jab and joust at others with shit like “LOOK WHUT U DID IN THUH MODERATION LOG!” and that just does nothing but escalate.

I think with some of these kinds of corrections, would promote the idea of a healthier ecosystem for the community.

  • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works
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    I actually like that blocking only stops you seeing their stuff. You shouldn’t be able to stop someone else’s account being unable to see your comments, that shouldn’t be within your power. But if you can’t see what they said, that should be enough for you, since they won’t bother you any more. I’d even have it that blocking is entirely client side.

    Another thing I would like though is the ability to group community and posts together so posts and comments can be linked together and smaller instances can get use without shovelling everyone to a single point of failure larger instance.

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      So what you’re saying is that you like the idea of online arguments? No, I can’t follow everything you’ve said in the first bit. If you want to argue with someone online, go do it in DMs or wherever else. Not at the expense of the community, nobody here usually comes to read sissy slapfights that usually escalate into insults and escalates into spite-reporting which drives mods/admins angry.

      The Fediverse should be learning as to what not to be. This kind of behavior was very frequent on Reddit and still continues today. There should be an end to that kind of thing.

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        So what you’re saying is that you like the idea of online arguments?

        Actually, yes. The internet is all about the free & transparent flow of information. They’re just words & contrary to popular belief online, people can practice some self-control & just ignore them like humanity has done for millennia. If that’s beyond their meager abilities, then the existing block feature should suffice.

        If you want to publish your opinions on a public system for publishing opinions, yet don’t want others publishing theirs, then I don’t think you want social media. Moreover, your position is egotistical: you’re treating responses to your contribution to the public personally as attacks on you rather than comments to the public about content. Those responses to the public aren’t just for you. The public is entitled to critique, debate, & see the opinions on your work of those you’ve blocked.

        Fake kumbaya with lack of conflict isn’t necessary or good for social media. Lack of exposure to diverse opinions & meaningful dissent leads to groupthink & radicalization. More than ever, the world needs the opposite of that.

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        “So what you’re saying…” is such a tired meme, and the irony just piles on when you follow it up by strawmanning their argument.

        Wanting to block someone else from seeing what you’re writing on a public forum is straight-up petty. Blocking as it works right now already does exactly what it’s supposed to: it stops the other user from engaging with you further. They can still interact with your posts, but you won’t know about it.

        If blocking worked the way you described, it wouldn’t just affect you and the other person - it’d screw over everyone else on the platform too. For example, someone spewing utter bullshit could block everyone fact-checking them, and suddenly those corrections vanish for the whole audience.

        Plus, it’d be ridiculously easy to circumvent. Making a new account takes a few minutes, or just log out and boom - you’re unblocked again.