FFS, just when I thought some PDs hit moral rock bottom, they dig deeper.

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    It is already Idiocracy.

    The computer says you did it.

    But I didn’t do it!

    The computer says you did it.

    What if the computers is wrong!?

    The computer says you did it.

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      Oh didn’t this happen in the UK with their post-office software. The software essentially made an error that made it look like postworkers had stolen hundreds of thousands of pounds. The software creator, police and government all knew the software was at fault but the computer said you stole money “Sooooo postworkers go prison!”

      Dead ass a couple people killed themselves over real life Idiocracy.

      Edit: At least 13! Thirteen people died because the UK government couldn’t admit they fucked up.

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      Something similar happened in Michigan where they put a computer program, Midas, in charge of fraud detection for unemployment insurance.

      It improperly accused like hundreds of people of fraud and forced them to pay these huge penalties, thousands of dollars, or go to jail I believe, and even after they found out it was faulty they still tried to deny it so they did not have to admit a mistake just like in the British post Scandal you are referring to.

      All done by people that wanted to get rid of unemployment insurance completely but couldn’t so were trying to deny it to people that qualify for it. And they all get away scot-free despite knowingly sticking innocents with fraud charges.

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    This shit started long ago. 1991, an innocent man went to prison in Germany.

    How? A bank robbery, very grainy footage, you can just see that the robber is fat and masked. So they arrested some other fat guy and got an expensive “biometric expert” who “identified” him as the robber. How? The ear. Certainty? 100 %.

    When they got the real guy, you could see that the ear is not similar whatsoever. Neither is anything else, except for the body type.

    Since that was not in the US, he got 30k compensation, but had to “pay back” 10 per day for the food he got over 9 years. In a civil case 6 years later he got 150k compensation from the “expert” (which usually does not happen, but he fucked up so hard and got more innocent people convicted after that).

    German source: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Stellwag

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    There’s not been nearly enough coverage about what was happening in Pasco County FL up until recently (fortunately Institute for Justice shut them down) but they called it “predictive policing” or “intelligence led policing” AKA Minority Report. Using datamining and AI to target “prolific offenders” and then harassing them day and night until they committed a crime or moved out of town.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd_YfwoVaEg

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      No, minority report had precogs that could predict the future.

      This has AI that hallucinates

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        If you remember the story, their predictions were not completely accurate either. That was the basis of the whole story.

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    There was a podcast in 2019 called Sleepwalkers, about how we were unconsciously accepting a new reality where AI controls crucial decisions.

    One of their episodes was about this exact scenario, and how it was already happening.

    The podcast is back with a new name to reflect the urgency of dealing with the topics presented in the original.

    Kill Switch

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      This is one of those moments where the choice of pronoun matters a lot. Who is we, white man?

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    Police have gone from just following orders. To just following Ai orders. It’s a step… A step back.

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      The boot licker cares not if the boot is made of leather or circuits.

      The boot licker cares only for how well shined that boot is, how confident the stride of the wearer is, how many others want to shine those boots.

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        This is even better for the bootlicker. The boot is worn by a nameless, faceless, and emotionless thing making evil decisions (decisions the bootlicker wanted to do all along anyways) the bootlicker can play dumb. Just like they do whenever the word accountability gets brought up.

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    Something similar happened in Detroit a couple years ago or so. The facial recognition software flagged some guy that looked nothing like the suspect and they arrested him and it took a long time before the cops admitted they made a mistake.

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    Man, just wait until they actually start having high quality cameras and video compression in use in these systems.

    Maybe this guy wouldn’t have been “a possible match.” But also, it will just embolden them to rely on the AI even more once the cameras are 4k and a good bitrate.