no scrum, no master

true words. Unionize thought

from syndicat to syndicate

Yep, the issue is the I’ it need to organize as a wide collective to do such thing. And then, it do not need a lot of effort to do such thing. We could argue that in working for a collective, you may execute the order and not impact the line of that organization; it’s true, except in organization that are self-managed

ml, stand for marxist leninist I guess. But what does ca mean ?

Yep, of course I’m asserting. I’m speaking from my social position, and the only way I have to know if we could generalize to our class or not is to discuss about it. In another a class organization, like an union, we may see some subclass determination and see if their is different strategies for different industries.

I agree that the clever position is to not speak about hamas and arm resistance. I see many people I could convince thanks to the kind of position of Fanon, but maybe the movement will lose more people. You convince me that in this situation, “fanon” force an unnecessary split

when leftist say such things as “supporting arm resistance” it’s just make people turn away.

I’m pointing out of what we lose, and don’t find any gain for the movement. I’m trying to discuss the concrete effectiveness of our strategies. You know, being materialist and stuff

In the US and Germany, maybe. In Italy, Spain, France, and a lot more places, their is no repression anymore. Italy got massive demonstrations recently, but this is an exception and if we want to support Palestine, we have to ask ourselves why.

My point is the contradiction of trying to mobilize for peace with bellicose words. Other causes could may be found, but it seems that nobody are interested in discuss about it.

What is need of being verbose about arm resistance in the support Palestine freedom ? I pointed ou the people we lose in this support, but if I’m missing something that our support may earn, please tell me

I don’t pretend to be a good person. I don’t care, I’m no biggot.

I’m pointing out that the representation of anti-imperialism stand is not necessarily a concrete anti-imperialist stand. Thinkinq that being verbal about a cause is supporting it, and that “being a good person” a politic goal, is not being materialist, and could not lead to concrete change.

You didn’t read me. I said exactly the opposite.

And got her armor stolen

The result is : nothing that as a market value, from which at least 2/3 goes to capitalists (shareholders and rent) and hopefully 1/3 to your wage.

aaand it cost energy with the pollution linked with

So, it’s a nothing to be angry about

Severance ?

Yep I hear that catastrophic take, it’s always a shortcut to reproduce oppression. But that not the point.

What is the gain of supporting Hamas from Europe/US ? Is their weapon or training that will stop Israel ? If yes, even if I disagree politically, I would not argue on the strategy; but it’s not.

We struggling to send foods and first help kit to civilian. We are not in the situation where this is a question.

Todays western left is more eager to pose than to act, and in this situations, when leftist say such things as “supporting arm resistance” it’s just make people turn away.

Our class is deeply concern with Palestine situation, and the first mobilisation has to be stongly repressed by the bourgeoisie in order to stop the movement to be massive. However, the repression in a lot of countries have stopped month ago, and we are a very few to go to demonstrations and actions. We have to ask why. And I think that when people mobilize against the murder of civilian, they don’t want to hear others promoting civilian murderer

Plz, the brush

Shall we support resistance against imperialism, even if it’s a fascist one that would oppress or shall stand next to every oppressed ? It could be a deep political split, for exemple between communists and anarchists, but not in this contexte.

Their is no way to really support arm resistance from US or Europe. But we have some ways to stop Israel support. Defending the Hamas will result in being marginalized from the mass, even if they do support Palestine, for no concrets support for any resistance.

This strategically a none-sense and just a posture

life is absurd. So you did it, I guess …

I thought they where still hosting US one, but it seems that they ended it in 1984 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

I think it’s depend of which kind of war. If it’s obvious for everyone that “they is no way we can agree” from the beginning, so it’s a nuclear preemptive strike from the first timezone aware of the rules. So Europe, China, India and Pakistan are close competitors. US have and Canada shall destroy itself, their nuclear capacities are spread across several “timezone interests”. Funny enough, what may make the difference between Europe, China, India and Pakistan may be the hour when the situation declare itself. If the ruling class is asleep, officer may need to wait to wake them up, as it was during the 1983 false nuclear alarm

If it’s not obvious that their is no way to make agreement, we may see an escalation of conflict, starting with soft and hard power. This scenario may be very close of the current relationships, and the winner may be the main imperialists power : Europe or the US In this scenario, it seems obvious that the US adopt one timezone, and make it adopt for every countries in the North and South America. It’s next move would be to sabotage other negotiations. I didn’t exclude Europe from the competitions, because the neo-colonial relationships may help the expand their timezone in their former colonies. What may make the differences is the attitude of UK and Russa. Depending if they adopt the European timezone or not.

I don’t think the number of people involve in one timezone make a change; this is short term scenarios, and economic and diplomatic power seems unrelated with the population size

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