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  • I didn’t dodge your question, I answered it directly in saying that convicting on accusations alone is a dark path.

    There is no number of accusations made that should be considered “proof” of anything.

    But, every accusation should be taken seriously and investigated objectively.

    (Btw, the salient part of that in relation to this conversation is “proven” not “reasonable doubt”)


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    I’m not sure if you’re trying to argue with me or not from the general tone there?

    Regardless, as much as it sucks: innocent until proven guilty means proven guilty. Sentencing on accusations alone seems like a really dark path to walk, even when many people are accusing.

    That said, the effort put into finding evidence should certainly increase with the number of accusations made, and it’s well established that circumstantial evidence is enough to convict in many cases. Many accusations should mean many data points to validate against looking for credible evidence right?




  • It’s funny that you’re not even sure you can do that extremely simple thing in my original comment faster than I could prompt an LLM.

    No, see, this is called “having integrity” by not asserting as fact a hypothetical. I am 100% certain that I could knock out your hypothetical in one command in less than a minute but since I didn’t go actually do it I didn’t pretend that I did.

    I do love the whole “oh but it knocks out all of the mundane stuff” as if that’s the primary part of our job. I have been doing development for about 30 years and I have spent so little time on mundane tedious tasks in that time. Certainly not enough time to justify the ecological impact of LLM data centers (even if they actually worked as well as advocates claim).

    I wish all of you people would stop knocking what you’ve never even tried.

    This is your prejudice showing (the only way someone would not like this is if they haven’t tried it). I have tried it, and I found it to be a waste of my time. What I saw was a stochastic parrot providing me objectively wrong answers to questions, and code that I needed to completely rewrite before it would function as advertised.

    That product is not worth drinking the worlds water and ruining people’s quality of life near data centers over. It’s not worth the theft of IP and original thoughts, the obvious copyright violations as it crawls the web (ignoring every standard “do not crawl” marker I know of), the extra cost to site hosts as LLMs savagely barrage their pages. It’s not worth lining the pockets of already super rich VCs as they exploit blockchain 2.0 until the bubble bursts. It’s not worth the real human beings who have already lost their livelihood because an executive is frothing at the mouth to replace people with machines and has been promised AGI “any day now” by LLM spokespeople who don’t seem to understand that whole integrity thing above.

    The hate that you see might have something to do with the willingness to ignore all of the above so “save some time” on the alleged “mundane tasks” people seem to think dominates the industry.














  • I mean, “to 3d print a wall” is a massive, bordering on disingenuous, understatement of what’s happening there. They’re replacing all of the construction work of framing and finishing all of the walls of the house, interior and exterior, plus attaching them and insulating them, with a single step.

    My point is if you want to make a good argument against LLMs, your metaphor should not have such an easy argument against it at the ready.