• FooBarrington@lemmy.world
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    IMO the bigger problem is that the “average normal politician” managed to be so bad that voters didn’t feel motivated to vote against Hitler.

    This should have been a slam dunk - and there were literally a number of easy ways to motivate voters, like promising to stop the ongoing genocide the country is funding. But when given the choice between “letting Hitler win” and “stopping the genocide”, Harris and the entire DNC leadership chose to let Hitler win.

    Isn’t that deeply fucked up?

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      It was a slam dunk. I still know trump supporters who think everything negative said about him is a lie. Why did this never happen in human history before (an unrelenting smear campaign running for over a decade against an innocent man)? Meh I dunno something about woke.

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          yeah but she COULD have won retroactively if we browbeat people who already vote blue for the next ten years about it

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            She was! But since a rather large portion of the US public seems to have 0-3 neurons, it’s not enough to be the obvious choice for everyone else.

            Harris and her campaign knew this. They had polls clearly showing that she’s so bad at motivating voters that she’ll likely lose.

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              No, it was the voters fault that Harris decided to fish for the republican vote by shifting more to the right in her rhetoric. Those stupid people should have voted blue no matter who!

              empty meme of the guy that puts a branch in the wheel of his bicycle and is laying on the ground holding his leg in the third panel

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        your whole comment is provably false. claming the attack on the 7. was a genocide is laughably false.

        do not forget that Israel has made gaza a concentration camp long before that time.

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          claming the attack on the 7. was a genocide is laughably false.

          I linked a source (Well, a wiki article which itself link sources). You spew bullshit.

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            you linked the wikipedia article. it’s allegations. if you had read it you would first notice that the allegations are about “intent” and genocide. As the power imbalance is laughably.

            The empire long called the rebellion murderes with genocidal intent. When the rebellion hit what they could, the empire killed their own to avoid hostages. The empire then told all that the rebels had murdered babies and made up other lies to make the rebels look bad.

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              it’s allegations.

              So are the current allegations against Israel, right?

              To be more than allegations, there would have to be a ICC judgement in either case, I think?

              As the power imbalance is laughably.

              Just because you are laughably weak, it does not mean you can’t do evil.

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                    logic is a feeling, and is just as good a basis for argumentation as anger is.

                    also. I support hamas. I would have been worse than them if I had to grow up in concentration camp gaza and see the world do nothing. seeing the zionists kill our children, steal our water, demolish homes and wells and kill crops.

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            A wiki page listing people who have called it a genocide doesn’t exactly prove that it was one, and regardless the israelis have long been oppressing the people in gaza, including illegally capturing land by force for many years, so them striking back would be less a genocide and more an act of war, a warcrime in this instance as they largely attacked civillians, but so does israel which is why both the leader of hamas and israel are wanted war criminals

            It’s like saying the slave revolts in ancient rome were genocides because the slaves were attacking romans, who else were they supposed to attack? And could you really blame them for striking back at their oppressors?

            Ideally it would have been resolved peacefully but the international community turned a blind eye to what was happening, and israel sure as hell wasn’t about to stop out of the kindness of their heart

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              It’s not insane, it’s a rhetorical tactic. “OK, fine, Israel is doing a genocide - but they did it to us first!”.