[Jesus sits on a rock, speaking]
A new command I give you:
Love one another
[an angry character talks back to Jesus]
What if they’re something bad like gay, trans, brown, or communist though?
[Jesus is facepalming on his rock]
I don’t want to be a messiah anymore
It is my experience again that adherents to the Manosphere and this hyper-masculine rejection of empathy are christians, but as above, I live in a shitty place. You seem like a good person and you’re devoted to the kinder aspects of your religion. You can believe whatever you want to believe, but I’d rather not spend my time in the spaces I’ve described with those people where it can be avoided. I’d rather not base my beliefs on ideas about inherent guilt and blood sacrifice, superstition and unprovable supernatural claims, where differences in interpretation can lead to these seemingly abhorrent separations from one church to another. Instead, and I suppose that you’re correct that this is just an opinion, I think a better world would be found when we remove ourselves from these ancient notions of the world around us. I do hope the best for us all, as I’m sure you do also.
I haven’t found anyone in the Manosphere who is Christian. Maybe some can be found who claim the label. You even had some insanity like Andrew Tate trying to say “Christ is King” when he’s a Muslim - Even the Babylon Bee was making fun of people who embrace Andrew Tate and his teachings
As a matter of fact, I attended a men’s bible-study last night, and of course, the manosphere was mentioned and immediately labelled as unchristian and heresy. I have been to Christian men’s conferences and the same happened there. In fact, it basically comes up during any Christian men’s events, and even has been brought up during Church sermons and studies where the crowd was mixed.
Worth mentioning some of these events were ecumenical as well. I watched the Louis Thereoux documentary on it, and their way of life and attitude of women seemed so Godless. So I believe for young men who do crave tradition and purpose, having them become a Christlike man and looking to Christ is the far better outcome than them using Tate as their rolemodel.
I would disagree. For many, these ancient notions are what fuel a lot of good. They keep people going. I can look at the Manosphere and simply reject it as their teachings are incredibly unbiblical and not in line with Christianity. Same with Nazism, white supremacism, MAGA, etc. Which, for a lot of young men in rural areas, may be their only alternatives. I am of course not speaking of all leftists, as that would be a strawman. But there has been aspects of these movements which have tried to push men away and demean and despise men. Thankfully, I believe leftist movements are becoming more accepting of healthy masculinity and men, but it was still an issue that was perceived by many. There has always been stigma about “straight white male” or “cis men”. I did have former friends demean me for being a “cis man” years ago. For some of these people, if they seek community where they are accepted for being a man, a moderate Church is generally a pretty good option.