• OpenStars@piefed.social
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    14 days ago

    Okay, there are two continents called that, though. The country being talked about doesnt even cover half of one.

    Ngl, a fine start to an argument - truly I mean that. However, keep going: by your logic, trans women are not real women.

    Think about it: trans women choose to be called by the pronoun “she”. But you don’t want to, so you will instead call them your choice of pronoun “he”.

    Americans can be silly, yes. But the terms used to describe anyone at all reflects more upon the users than to the group to whom they aim to refer to.

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        14 days ago

        Your username, 𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠, is what I choose to call you - because it is what you have indicated to all of us that you want to be called. If I called you “buttface”, and you objected, and I still continued to call you “buttface”, how friendly would that be, on my end? Or perhaps that analogy is too strained, b/c it is a known derogatory term, so let’s say instead that I choose to call you… “meowface” - would that be even the slightest bit better? Repeatedly, to your face as well as behind your back, over and over again, and btw this is because “I am such a nice man” as to have decided to call you “meowface” whereas the (somehow only?) other alternative was “buttface”, so don’t you see here what a favor I am doing for you?

        I do not even have to believe that you are an actual “Chairman”, it is just simple & basic respect. I choose to call you by the name that you chose for yourself, rather than the name that I made up for you.

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          14 days ago

          You seem to be looking for things to misunderstand to make a problem to have an argument about, then throwing marginalized people under the bus to shock-shame people into… What? Giving you internet points? That’s fucked. Can you stop?

          Or explain your real issue?

        • Again, totally irrelevant.

          The argument made here is that a small subset of a group is claiming the nomenclature for the entire group for themselves, and that that is unjustified.

          It’d be like trans women demanding to be called women (fair) but also requiring that other women no longer refer to themselves as women (unfair). Your metaphors completely omit the second part: the claiming of exclusivity of the name.

          It’s like Germans calling themselves Europeans, but simultaneously demanding the French don’t do so. Don’t expect them to honour that request.

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      14 days ago

      Glad you consider naming a bullshit imperial power something convenient the same as transphobia.

      Hey, can I ask the names of all the countries on the west coast of Europe are? Or what the water surrounding Cuba is called?