• hperrin@lemmy.ca
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    Maybe? Absolutely liberals care more about their communities. Part of conservatism is that you don’t give a single shit about anyone but yourself. Maybe your kids. But that’s only if they’re straight and cis.

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      The right-wingers also aren’t from the place they have these rallies at usually. They drive all over the country and get bussed around for these events to make the movement seem more popular. But when there are large progressive/left protests or events, they are mostly actually from that area so they care more about not making a mess.

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        Both things make sense together - people care more about not making a mess were they live than were they don’t and left-wingers also think about others rather than just themselves - “do to others what you would like them to do to you” - which in this case means don’t leave your trash behind to dirty up the place were others live, whilst rightwingers are all about what’s best for themselves and in a place were they don’t live simply dropping their trash on the ground and leaving it to dirty up somebody else’s streets is less hassle for them personally than carrying their trash to the nearest trash bin.

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    MAGA is white trash. …And pick me trash. To be fair. I wish we could just split the country at this point. Irreconcilable differences.

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        Well most of project 2025 has been implemented so unless we do something soon we are trapped in a christofacist oligarchy for the foreseeable future. The cage is closing

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            I agree. And it goes the other way too. All the posturing by ICE and the AI-generated ragebait from the whitehouse, all just screams “what would I hate.” They’re making really bad moves, unable to understand how others think, feel, or make decisions. We could double-reverse-uno this situation and ask ourselves “what would they think we think?” It could change everything.

            and a lot less afraid of engaging with people we’ve been taught to fear and hate.

            I think we’re all in more trouble with that than we may realize.

            I encountered an instigator on Saturday. I found myself catapulted into a cyclone of rage all because of what he chose to wear: all pro-trump gear. Not because of what he was doing, which was next to nothing, nor what he was saying which was honestly not all that rage-inducing. I couldn’t think, I couldn’t engage creatively, I couldn’t demonstrate effectively, my empathy went right out the window. I just stood there, fuming and stun-locked. And that was one guy. It’s not like me, and I didn’t used to be like this.

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            I agree with most of what you’re saying as sad as it is. The problem is to build a counter propaganda platform takes billions upon billions

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      Death Metal fans are percieved as incredibly violent, but actually are usually super nice…unless you give them a reason to get super violent. Then they’re super violent.

      But after they get done lynching you, they’ll stop for coffee and tea and discuss politics and comunity news.

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          The person describing death metal fans never said they were a death metal fans.

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          When I can afford a meal at a restaurant that has servers? Generally 20% AND I bus my own table regardless.

          I went to a new, delightfully gay hairdresser recently who spent two hours on my own personal episode of Queer Eye for the Less Queer Guy. You bet your little bippy I tipped that man 25% and scheduled a cleanup appointment.

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          Personally, the only thing that causes me to go from “nice” to “mean” is intolerance or abuse.

          Its not “nice when they aren’t mean.” It’s “nice until they/their community are legitimately threatened.”

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        They’re only perceived as incredibly violent by religious old people… Death metal (and most other heavy music) fans are generally seen as nice people, because it’s true and has ever only been so. Same goes for horror movie nuts etc.

        I actually find it odd to see a comment like yours here, it’s such a well known thing that religious, conservative and mostly old people get bent out of shape and make a huge fuss about any new and/or, from their view, extreme thing. It’s been the same for centuries. Before death metal they said the same about metal, before that it was rock, hip hop, pop music, jazz etc. Same with how every new generation is seen as lazy, disrespectful, dumb etc. which we have texts about from thousands of years ago.

        As said, I’m very surprised to see a comment like yours here. And it seems like you think you have a liberal (in the word definition meaning, not the current political one) and/or at least open minded view, but it’s actually not that at all. My 80yo grandmother has a more truthful and accepting view than what you seem to have. I do think you were partially very clumsy with your words though, at least I hope so, but even with that in mind it’s still surprising to see a view like this from someone in any place like here.

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      Sure bring up that ghoul to make a point.
      That whole shitstain of a country needs to go up in flames.
      Glad you got Trump.

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        bad people can make good points. most things aren’t black and white. nuance exists

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          It is certainly not “a good point”.
          Out of literally anything that you can choose this insult (not even a point) from a pure sociopath that shows what kind of hateful monster it is definitely is not a good choice.

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    I dont agree with leaving the trash there, but I understand it. It would have been confusing with all the trash already gathering there.

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    They think they are better than other people. They don’t see others as worthy of their consideration. “Am I the only one who is sick and tired of being told to pick up my trash, when we have plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us?” - advisor to the President Stephen Miller

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      Ah, you’re describing Moral licensing, and that’s entirely plausible.

      In this case it’s “Littering is bad, but there’s no trash cans here and I’m a generally good person so, just this once.”

      Except I suspect that “once” is really “every so often.”

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      I always thought it was “it’s just one can/bag/bottle” when its clean, “it’s full of trash, one more won’t make a difference”

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      I literally watched a cop throw a blast ball in 2020 and then subsequently use their own actions to declare a riot

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    “Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” - Benito Mussolini

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    While in general the comparison is true, in the specific case of the Kirk circlejerk, people specifically were told to leave their shit outside the venue and TP paid for the cleanup.