It was a rather sombering thread, that echoed quite a bit of what I’ve been saying about .ml, the Triad, general toxicity of their Tankie “ideology” for months now.

I know @ptz@dubvee.org was speaking of general toxicity, but the Triad is a huge chunk of it, the culture they create…festers it. They comprise the bulk of the hostility, I’ve personally seen it over and over and over again. All the “Just go back to Reddit” or “just another lib Redditor refugee” comments for someone that dared to have nuance.

Hell, I saw hex users fucking cheering .ee’s shutdown because it was some sort of psyop/CIA/fed/lib/“They didn’t perfectly agree with me” instance. They call feddit.org a “Nazi Zionist” instance for the crime…of not wanting to be arrested and complying with German law…

I haven’t looked to see if they’ve started any “celebratory” posts about Dubvee yet and I also don’t really want to, if they’re there, I already know what they’re going to say in it -_-

Unfortunately, I fear the problem was far worse than I thought.

Ptz speculated that the toxicity has “metastasized”. And you know what? He might be right, it seemed to be a lot better off 2 years ago, now…now I feel we might be losing the battle against the toxicity and I don’t think PieFed will be enough. Complacency has set in

My hope was that with enough instances defederating from .ml and the rest of the Triad, it would be a tad easier to take down toxic Tankies, trolls and their alts. But, few wanted to burn the bridge with the toxic main devs’ instance and now it might be too late. (Cheers to @Illecors@lemmy.cafe and the lemmy.cafe instance, one of the few of note to actually defederate from the entire triad!)

Like ptz said and I fully agree with, this place started with promise 2 years ago, but it appears to be ultimately morphing into 4chan (or like I’ve been saying, Voat 2.0) after all

Oh well, I’ve got some thick ass skin so I’ll probably be here till the end, till the last sane instance shuts down.

I’ll see you there @dessalines@lemmy.ml

/Sadmemerant

Heck, maybe I’ll do a hail Mary and start an instance on a custom fork of lemmy with “normie proof” onboarding while dumping a few hundred in ADs (Maybe even on Reddit itself, HA!). I’ll flood this place with “normies” LMAO

    • Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      2 months ago

      .ml has/had a lot of entirely normal people as a lot of people went to it before and during the reddit exodus and set up communities there, myself included.

      • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
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        2 months ago

        A lot of them have since left. If they choose to inhabit a Nazi bar though, that is entirely their choice? But I should have the ability to have my own choices too, and not shift the Overton window by having to be on an instance that federates with them.

    • cm0002@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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      2 months ago

      They won’t, I think many are testing the waters with PieFed for an ultimate move over, but I have a feeling for the ones that matter *cough* .world *cough* it would likely be a months long process, that ultimately will arrive too late.

        • cm0002@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Well defederating from .ml would have gone far dessalines being butthurt about it be damned, but at this point, idk probably wouldn’t matter anymore

    • rumschlumpel@feddit.orgEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Wish I could easily block all .ml communities (not the comments and posts that .ml users make on other instances, I want to be able to downvote and report them if other non-tankie users can see them).