• Cris@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I mean I hate to be critical on a comm that doesn’t seem meant for it and I’m already in the middle of one longwinded discussion with folks in another part of lemmy so I dont want another one, but like…

    We also love purity testing our fellow leftists, and all kinds of people who absolutely pass the test of being nazis 😅. I think we’re kinda horrible at accepting even minor differences in political thought

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      3 months ago

      Politics is simply anything to do with decision making in groups. We should celebrate our differences. We need each other, as long as there’s tolerance. The flexibility allows us to meet new challenges. New ideas keep us fresh and nimble and helps us catch those who fall through the net. Authoritarianism, including Nazism is nigh impossible to collaborate with. We come from the wild, we are not meant for boxes. Living things cannot thrive while contained. While our differences are our greatest strength, our enemies will exploit it and try to divide us with it.

      https://itsgoingdown.org/announcing-new-zine-red-flags-before-you-join-that-org/

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      3 months ago

      Yes, obviously is it. The PRC has done, and continues to do, bad things. The racist imperialism in Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Tibet, as well as Guizhou, Yunnan, and Guangxi is bad and should be denounced.

      Now, what’s your actual point?

      The actions of the PRC do not excuse, and are less genocidal than what is Israel is doing with US support in Palestine, or the attacks on indigenous people in South America and India, taking place due to capitalist expansion (Or indeed the killings and destruction brought about by capitalist expansion of the PRC in Myanmar and Laos).
      Hell, if the state of the US keeps up the way LGBT people are treated in the US will become more genocidal than the PRC’s treatment of ethnic minorities. The way the US has treated American Indians may not be quite as culturally corrosive right now, but that’s because the destroy their culture and get rid of the intellectual who speak out part has thankfully, grown less severe over the last 80 years (in part because it had been felt a success by those who wanted to force Indians to integrate and assimilate (read: sinicise (read: be culturally destroyed)).

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        3 months ago

        My point is to expose the hypocrites, who only use the genocide as a talking point when its convenient vs the people who actually have morals.

        If youre willing to call it genocide, im not criticising you

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          3 months ago

          You certainly picked a doozy of an example, as I think I only ever see it mentioned by people trying to drum up China hate - who usually go on to ignore Palestine, India, Brazil, and I’m sure many ethnic cleansing cases I’m forgetting.

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            3 months ago

            Oh thats interestng can you point out an example?

            Ive never seen that, but I do see tankies constantly not care about genocides in china and only seem to care about it happening in other countries.

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              3 months ago

              Tankies are very good at ignoring anything even possibly non-ideal in the PRC and USSR (and sometimes even Russia too!).

              I’ll try to remember to link it in a new reply to you next time I stumble across it being used in order to deflect from the US or draw criticism to China over the topic at hand.