• threeonefour@piefed.ca
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    13 days ago

    I had the opposite TIL when I learned other cultures only apologize for wrong doings and not as a sign of sympathy.

          • Vupware@lemmy.zip
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            13 days ago

            I’m not frustrated at being asked why I’m apologizing. Rather, I’m frustrated that it is the norm to apologize for things that you didn’t do.

            • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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              13 days ago

              You got me curious to find out which meaning of “sorry” came first, so I looked up its etymology.

              The modern word came through Middle English, from an Old English word that meant “distressed, grieved, full of sorrow”. The Proto-Germanic root before that had a meaning of “painful.”

              A meaning of “repentant, remorseful, contrite” was recorded circa 1200 AD.

              The page also notes:

              Simple sorry in an apologetic sense (short for I’m sorry) is suggested by 1834


              Putting it all together, it seems people initially began saying “sorry” (or the word that would become it) to express that they were feeling some kind of “pain.” At some point it started being used exclusively for emotional pain. Around 1200 AD, it picked up the sense of “remorseful.” However, simply saying “sorry” to express that remorse wasn’t a thing for another 600 or so years.

              I’m no professional etymologist, and I only checked this one source, so I could very well be wrong. However, it sounds like the meaning of “feeling sorry” to mean feeling bad (which is what people mean when they say, “I feel sorry for you”) predates using “I’m sorry” to express remorse over one’s actions.

              Note - this isn’t intended to support nor sway anyone’s opinion. Language changes, and there is no right or wrong to it. An older meaning isn’t more or less valid than a newer meaning, especially when both meanings have already co-existed for centuries. I just find word history interesting and wanted to share what your comment inspired me to learn. ✌️

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                10 days ago

                this made me realize that we’ve absorbed “sorry” into swedish with only the meaning of apologizing, specifically for something relatively minor

            • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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              12 days ago

              I’m frustrated that it is the norm to apologize for things that you didn’t do.

              You just introduced that. No one was talking about that. That’s a you thing, I guess.

              • Vupware@lemmy.zip
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                12 days ago

                Hence why I said I’m on the other side of the fence. I don’t know why so many of you took such great offense!

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        13 days ago

        I’ll give you something to be sorry about vibes. I’ll give you something for me to be sorry about?