• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 days ago

    Look, the Epstein shit is important, and it’s important that we keep it in the conversation, but this isn’t a fucking distraction. Do people seriously not understand how dire this is? This isn’t a fucking joke. We are deep into full-on fascism now.

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      9 days ago

      I work at Microsoft and they just did massive layoffs all of this year. Last round I was layed off. 9000 of us in the last round.

      I say this, because, I think people might associate tech jobs and education with being more liberal and pro immigrantion. This is not the case at all. The liberals are being offered fascism as a means to deal with their unemployment and will accept it with open arms as their material conditions decline. Most people I know from my job would absolutely join ICE for the paycheck as the tech sector lays off more and more people.

      I’m sure we are seeing this in other industries as well. But just sharing for mine. ICE is going to look like an attractive job for a lot “middle class” Americans to be able to make rent. None of them are having class conflict conversations either. These people have next to no idea of what is going on.

      We will not just get the hogs joining ICE. You’re gonna see a lot of liberals start to justify it as their livelihood starts to get connected to it too. This is how fascism works.

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        Those “fancy steps” are the only things that would make this legal. Without them, all he’s doing is violating the Constitution. DC presents a unique loophole for this. Anywhere else, and he’s breaking the law.

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          It doesn’t fucking matter. He’ll do it all anyway, without ever declaring martial law. And what the fuck is anyone going to do about it?

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              It means even less, if your first impulse is to toss it all out the window as soon as it’s no longer convenient for you to follow it.

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                “Yes, the current system is slow and ineffective, and has done nothing to prevent the incarceration and deportation of innocent people, misappropriation of funds, and misuse of the military, but to demand anything else would be going against the ineffective system!”

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                  So, because people are currently being denied the right to due process…due process itself, doesn’t work?

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          He’s breaking the law all over the US, when you’re rich… they let you. This is no different. Let’s see some consequences somewhere.

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            No one is “letting him”. There are dozens of active cases against him and his administration, right now. The process takes time, and the media never covers it adequately…but the system is still working.

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              That’s entirely the point. Legal channels are too show to counteract everything at once. See Bannon’s “stress test”.

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                Dude. That’s literally the same argument Trump was using for why he should be allowed to just deport people without due process. This is not the “solution” you think it is.

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      9 days ago

      they dont fear confrontation because they think they have the means to jail, out-shoot, and out-kill the “Left”

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            My sweet summer child. Part of the oath says you will obey the orders of the President. Soldiers are also highly conditioned to obey orders unquestionably. There’s no time for a moral debate on the battlefield.

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    Short answer: good luck with that. Deployable up to 100K. Total population you’re trying to control is 15 million. So 1 per 150 citizens.

    Except it obviously would quickly need to include the Bay Area, St Louis, Indianapolis, Portland, Seattle etc

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      That was never the criticism from anyone actually opposing Trump. The criticism is that she built her career as a cop, locking people up for minor offenses, fighting to keep them in prison for cheap labor, and then went on to campaign for the most lethal military machine on Earth. But sure, go ahead and whitewash her record because it’s easier to joke than to confront the fact that your “lesser evil” still has blood on her hands.