• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I have no doubt that Maduro is actually a criminal.

    Guy was illegally operating a Latin American democracy in defiance of decades of US coup attempts. He should be arrested, convicted, shot, buried, exhumed, convicted a second time, and launched into the sun. How fucking dare he.

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      4 days ago

      I’m all fuck the US and the US’s imperialism in Venezuela (and in general) but let’s not whitewash Maduro either.

      Calling the system under Maduro a “democracy” is a massive stretch.

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        4 days ago

        let’s not whitewash Maduro either

        “S/He was no angel” is the same language conservative media uses to smear victims of police shootings, ICE arrests of migrant people, and targets of US/Israeli assassination.

        Getting tired of hearing the nightmarish actions of a fascist state justified by rattling off reasons you think the victims of this violence deserved it.

        Calling the system under Maduro a “democracy” is a massive stretch.

        How many foreign backed coup attempts does the Venezuelan government need to thwart before we question the foreign-sponsored narrative that the current government is popular and the people failing to replace them through armed insurrection are not?

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            3 days ago

            The number of times I have said this on Threadiverse… Some people here seem to always believe theres a good guy and a bad guy. The world isn’t usually like that. Very few good guys in power.

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            3 days ago

            And dipshits can just say shit and fall back on this line when the clear self serving interest behind the completely baseless allegation is examined

            It’s just a way for you to lie and act like being called out is being unreasonable

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        Calling the system under Maduro a “democracy” is a massive stretch.

        good thing you didn’t elaborate an iota otherwise someone could accuse you of being racist

        best to just leave the purely vibes based reasoning unsaid

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        4 days ago

        Ethical arguments aside, this operation costed at least several hundred million.

        It cost 80 people and counting their lives. It cost homes and it destroyed the livelihood of dozens of Venezuelan fishermen. It will cost the country lifetimes devoted to the miserable task of once again bulking up the military and training people in the art of killing, in hopes of improving civil defense.

        Fiscally this is a terrible use of money.

        It was a rape. A brutal and callous use of force that will haunt the country for a generation to come.

        Even if it didn’t cost a dime, it would have been a horror to perpetrate on anyone, much less an entire nation of people.

        What we did was Venezuela’s 9/11.