No one is mentioning it, so I will: Maduro’s armed escort is just out of frame. There are about a dozen armed agents that escort him to the armed transport. This picture is missing important context in that regard
There is something to be said about the fact an alleged CEO killer is given the same level of armed escort as an alleged international drug kingpin and terrorist, but this picture does not accurately describe the situation
It’s not that misleading. When Luigi was first brought to NYC, his “entourage” included the mayor and the police commissioner, and an enormous contingent of heavily militarized soldiers/LEOs crowding around him. His blazing orange jumpsuit almost glowed.
It backfired badly. The first time I saw that photo, it had the caption “Jesus being led to Pontius Pilate by the Roman Praetorian Guard.”
Yeah, presenting stuff like this in a misleading way only hurts the cause and credibility. Makes it much easier for ‘the other’ to ‘legitimately’ dismiss it
There is also something to be said about the framing of these two photographs as that distinction would be an intentional choice by the photographers and the publications which use their photographs.
perhaps the amount of escort is just standard procedure for whatever prison it is theyre going to (forgot the name)
Vs 27 year old SUSPECT
Both are technically just suspects. Maduro may be a dictator, but his charges are pretty much made up. They should be difficult to prove in court, though I have no doubt in the prosecution’s creativity and imagination.
Just for context: in November, Trump pardoned the ex-president of Honduras, who was convicted in an American court, and received 45 years in an American prison, for pretty much the same thing.
Obviously, he’s going to wait until the heat dies down, and Maduro will access his overseas accounts for a hefty bribe, and Trump will pardon him.
If Eric Adams was still mayor, he’d be holding a ticker-tap parade for Maduro’s arrest.
This has nothing to do with the person in custody and everything to do with the person in Gracie Mansion.
Actual criminal in New York:
When will his tailor face charges?
for making him look like a centaur. its well known trump orders baggy suits to hide his obesity, and his girlde, and diaper he wears. plus his shoe lifts makes him look like a centaur.
there’s a billion things wrong with him, but I can’t see what’s wrong with his suit. help?
I suppose I should have said his dry cleaner. That pant leg looks like he slept in it.
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you really went to “his trousers aren’t ironed”? Out of the EVERYTHING?
Sorry, it was just bothering me in that pic.
I had a tan suit moment. Forgive me. (Though considering he’s so critical about suits when it comes to others…)
I have no doubt that Maduro is actually a criminal.
He just had no buisness being or New York, or being tried in any American court
I don’t know or care if he’s a criminal. If he violated international law he should have been brought in to an international court at the ICC’s request by an international coalition of forces, and if he violated Venezuelan law he should be arrested, tried, and sentenced in Venezuela by Venezuelans. Unless he violated USAmerican law, in USAmerica without immunity, and was arrested in the US he shouldn’t be in US courts.
We are not the sovereigns of the whole planet. Other countries are other countries and we need to act like it.
If he violated international law he should have been brought in to an international court at the ICC’s request by an international coalition of forces
Wouldn’t that require consent from Maduro? AFAIK the ICC doesn’t really catch people from countries that refuse them.
and if he violated Venezuelan law he should be arrested, tried, and sentenced in Venezuela by Venezuelans
Kinda need a coup d’etat for that first if he runs the country
Unless he violated USAmerican law, in USAmerica without immunity, and was arrested in the US he shouldn’t be in US courts.
Wholly agreed.
But seriously, you pretty much can’t actually charge a dictator while they’re still in power. Kidnapping them like Trump did is pretty much the only way, but that doesn’t mean it’s a legitimate way.
I have no doubt that Maduro is actually a criminal.
Guy was illegally operating a Latin American democracy in defiance of decades of US coup attempts. He should be arrested, convicted, shot, buried, exhumed, convicted a second time, and launched into the sun. How fucking dare he.
I’m all fuck the US and the US’s imperialism in Venezuela (and in general) but let’s not whitewash Maduro either.
Calling the system under Maduro a “democracy” is a massive stretch.
let’s not whitewash Maduro either
“S/He was no angel” is the same language conservative media uses to smear victims of police shootings, ICE arrests of migrant people, and targets of US/Israeli assassination.
Getting tired of hearing the nightmarish actions of a fascist state justified by rattling off reasons you think the victims of this violence deserved it.
Calling the system under Maduro a “democracy” is a massive stretch.
How many foreign backed coup attempts does the Venezuelan government need to thwart before we question the foreign-sponsored narrative that the current government is popular and the people failing to replace them through armed insurrection are not?
Two things can be bad at the same time.
The number of times I have said this on Threadiverse… Some people here seem to always believe theres a good guy and a bad guy. The world isn’t usually like that. Very few good guys in power.
And dipshits can just say shit and fall back on this line when the clear self serving interest behind the completely baseless allegation is examined
It’s just a way for you to lie and act like being called out is being unreasonable
Imagine watching the J6 riot and proceeding into a long rant about how Congress is bad.
That’s not at all equivalent to what I did.
Calling the system under Maduro a “democracy” is a massive stretch.
good thing you didn’t elaborate an iota otherwise someone could accuse you of being racist
best to just leave the purely vibes based reasoning unsaid
They didn’t mention anyone’s race.
it’s not racist unless the racist says upfront they’re being racist
-cracker
Banana Republic stuff
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Ethical arguments aside, this operation costed at least several hundred million.
It cost 80 people and counting their lives. It cost homes and it destroyed the livelihood of dozens of Venezuelan fishermen. It will cost the country lifetimes devoted to the miserable task of once again bulking up the military and training people in the art of killing, in hopes of improving civil defense.
Fiscally this is a terrible use of money.
It was a rape. A brutal and callous use of force that will haunt the country for a generation to come.
Even if it didn’t cost a dime, it would have been a horror to perpetrate on anyone, much less an entire nation of people.
What we did was Venezuela’s 9/11.
Truthfully just misread what you typed the first time. Coffee is now finished and I understand you now.
We’re on the same side
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Because only one of these men is a threat to them.
Boring, but accurate reason: Because the rest of Maduro’s armed escort are waiting along the pier
By the end he had a similar escort to Luigi. Certainly it’s a statement that an alleged international drug lord and terrorist is given the same level of escort as an alleged CEO murderer, but the picture is missing important context - a dozen armed agents waiting to escort him just out of frame
Best comment, and the real answer.
How in the land of yeehaw gunlaw did nobody Luigi another CEO?
Charlie Kirk was CEO of Toilet Paper USA
Another Victim of Communism to add to the wall.
People cosplay as tough guys online all the time. Hardly anyone else has the balls to be like Luigi (allegedly).
But all the woke trans assassins committing the violence crimes. Need to deploy US military in the big democrat cities. (Whatever happened with that anyway? Did the cabal decide yeah that was too much of a bad idea, so let’s do Venezuela instead?)
The military basically just refused to turn on citizens. So they just showed up as ordered and cleaned trash and such
Also the supreme court said no to one of the occupations
Not everyone has little enough to lose to go vigilante. Many of us have families to feed and can’t afford to miss work over shooting a scumbag.
Most people with a similar background to Luigi have too much to lose. He was educated, knew how to make a plan and follow through, learning what he didn’t know ahead of time. He knew how to navigate our systems in a way most people without that background won’t. And really, most people with those skills have too much to lose if they’re caught. The system protects itself by having us all be dependent on it.
Honestly? I doubt at this point we’d be hearing about it.
Didn’t the guy who was reported shooting up the NFL offices supposedly catch another CEO? I remember speculation that there was another company that shared an office with the NFL, and the CEO was the actual target; but at this point I can’t tell conspiracy theories from actual news being silenced.
The CEO who was Luigi’d was probably unknown to the public and still it got a lot of coverage. If the CEO of a large corporation were unalived, we’d definitely hear about it. Republicans would immediately brand the person “extreme left” or “antifa”.
Neither deserve that anyway
Side note but is Maduro goddamn huge?? Or are those agents chosen for their stature to make him seem bigger
He is around 190 cm
So tall but not “god damn huge”
So tall but not “god damn huge”
Maybe if he was European, but for South American standards that is pretty damn huge
16 cm above avg
Yeah, guess who is never getting his picture taken next to Maduro.
Tom Cruise?
Agatha Christie!
I can’t find any detailed data for Venezuela, but for Columbia that would literally be the 99.5th percentile of men
Wikipedia had a list of avg height per country
Its 174 or so in venezuela
Yes but the average alone doesn’t help with finding out his percentile
That’s what she said
why does the larger one not simply eat the smaller ones?
He’s 6’ 3"
That counts as a big dude to me. I’m 5’ 11" and bigger than many of my coworkers.
Yeah, 5’11" (180 cm) is fairly tall for an American man despite what the internet would tell you. But at 6’3" (190 cm) a guy is in “do you play basketball?” and the world is too small territory
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6’6" is “do you play professional basketball?” 6’3" is “do you play basketball as a hobby?”
Every photo I’m seeing has him towering over everyone else, so I suspect he is in fact large.
Wow his wife looks like a normal human the same age as her husband
Yeah, nothing like that grave robbing Macron! Or Melania, I guess.
Eric Adams needed that ego boost at the time, lol. Pathetic.
he needed a pardon from trump down the line.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
Well ya. One of them only hurt the poors.
I see some criminals there and one saint 😇
Are we stretching our definitions of “dictator” now?
Yes we are.
Why is Maduro being escorted by DEA?
He’s being charged with drug trafficking crimes I think.
The cassus belli is claims of drugs
They are spectators themselves. Fans if you wish. They have seen a thousand dictators, but a Luigi is news to them.
