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    21 days ago

    Well, yeah. If she didn’t hold the hearing then it would probably be immediately appealed and things would just take six months longer to proceed.

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      process is the punishment

      in the meanwhile he languishes in jail. With all of us knowing that without that backup, they have no proof besides Luigi should take care of himself better than eating at a shithole like McDonalds.

      Which is contemptible, but not illegal. He is suspect in having bad cuisine choices.

      Oh that’s terrible, perp walk him and off with his head!

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    ctvnews exonorates Luigi. If wording doesn’t matter they shouldn’t be publishing the news.

    NEW YORK — A U.S. federal judge on Monday said she will hold a short hearing in the next two weeks on procedures that police said allowed them to seize and look through Luigi Mangione’s backpack when he was arrested in the **killing** of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

    The word killing is not the same as murder. When the govt does it under color of law or it’s justified the term used is killing. A soldier in war kills, they do not murder. Society the soldier came from gives them legal cover to conduct war.

    Is ctvnews postulating a bicycle malfunction is to blame?

    Also notice the lack of alleged. As if ctvnews convicted the random pasty Luigi of lesser charge of eating fake food in the presence of children.

    Officers began searching the backpack at the McDonald’s restaurant where Mangione was arrested while eating breakfast on Dec. 9, 2024

    e.g. while intoxicated.

    Eating breakfast in public, a crime?

    Yes your honor we witnessed the suspect murdering a BigMac. For public safety we stepped in attempting to deescalate the situation by stealing the nerds lunch money and backpack.

    In another country that would be a joke. But the US supports highwaymen in every state, except Nevada. It’s called civil asset forfeiture.

    Is the backpack the suspect? Since insufficient cash was found, charges were brought to extort money by other means.

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      In the same article ctvnews clarifies they don’t have access to the Internet or a legal dictionary or public school graduates

      Mangione has pleaded not guilty to federal and state **murder** charges, which carry the possibility of life in prison.

      Which is it: killing or murder? Is this one case or am i missing the other case they are discussing?

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    The officer, she said, must have “sufficient authority and experience to testify about the established or standardized procedures in use” at the time of Mangione’s arrest “for securing, safeguarding, and, if applicable, inventorying the personal property of a person arrested in a public place.”

    The transcript for this is going to be entertaining.

    Yes, your honor, a decade prior the evidence warehouse was relocated to that particular McDonalds. It says so right here, pointing to a blank sheet of paper that is never scrutinized cuz it's stamped, top secret / classified. Judge also stipulated a very very very short briefing cuz might conflict with a later hair appointment

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    Prosecutors say officers searched the bag legally

    The US constitution says otherwise. Another officier at the scene even muttered out, maybe this requires first obtaining a search warrant. The article does not go into why officers cannot go around strip searching people, handling their belongings, or entering their home without a search warrant.

    In Canada, that’s maybe another Tuesday