Yea those of us that tried kind of figured our allies would use some of that fucking intelligence they have been giving our country to fuck those of us that are trying over to maybe, i don’t fucking know, tell the world how they stole the election because they admitted it right on fucking TV!
Right after they fucking declared war on us on fucking TV!
But your fucking countries are in on it, too. Just you fucking wait and see. The rich that lead you sold you out too and are just waiting to cash in on you. If you let them do it to your greatest ally, you’re fucked.
Spoke like a true murican.
You’re on point though, which means that because we have problems of our own, in part caused by you, we’ll just let the Great US of A solve its own shit while we’re busy solving ours.
The most aggravating thing is they’ve polarised themselves into thinking any outside force refusing to “fix it” is being sanctimonious.
Nah fam. this is something you’ve built from the ground up and entrenched into your culture, so you have to fix it. Outside forces imposing will end up with another iraq. (Or afghanistan. Or libya. Or Iran. ). Hell, even Germany was headed towards burying its cat turds until niemoller & co grassrooted the idea of collective guilt to come to terms with their crimes.
While I empathize with the sentiment, I’ve been listening to A People’s History of the United States lately. My takeaway so far is that change is only allowed to happen by the monied interests that control our government when it becomes in their financial interest for it to happen.
Guns won’t do it. Civilians 1) can’t effectively opposed state violence with the arms and organization they’re allowed, 2) our society is violent enough that killing civilians opposing the government will always be sanctioned by some.
Typically American to say “we can’t do anything, we’re helpless, yes we have guns but they aren’t good enough”. History shows it’s totally possible to rise up against tyrants, even when they seem invincible and untouchable, and force a radical change benefitting all. Luigi showed everyone it’s possible. Everyone says they support him but no one dares what he did. If no one does anything, everyone is just complying with a fascist dictatorship. So far only Republicans tried to change things, by attempting to shoot Trump and killing Charley Kirk. The rest just continues to use billionare’s products, making them even richer and giving them even more power. All while complaining they hate it and can’t do anything.
I mean, I get it, not everyone voted for him. My comment is bold and harsh. But on the other hand, it’s not our responsibility to deal with their dictator. Of course I’m willing to help, and unlike the US without oil deals or for anything else. I’m willing to help and support refugees, people who are a victim of this regime. I can’t change their system or do anything else I’m afraid. But I also think them doing nothing but complain is also not going to change anything. They aren’t fighting for their rights in a democracy anymore, protesting isn’t going to cut it if the regime doesn’t care about the law and constitution, and doesn’t recognize the judicial system whenever they feel like it. My grandparents and great grandparents joined the resistance during the second World War. I’m afraid the US is running out of effective legal, democratic options soon to fight the current regime and dictator.
It’s not just that the people downvoting you are too comfortable to fight back, it’s that by the virtue of being born in positions of extreme privilege (by worldwide and historical standards) they literally cannot conceive of a world where rights are acquired and retained through illegal or violent means, although every civil rights movement had an illegal and most often violent component to it.
There’s a reason we’re seeing pictures of Black Panthers patrolling the streets. They remember and understand that rights aren’t handed out by benevolent elites, they are acquired through violence - either direct acts thereof, or the explicit threat of it.
I honestly don’t know what to do about any of that. The task of educating Americans on the history of effectively protesting against authoritarianism seems impossible. For all that some aspects of their society are hyper-violent, the vast majority of the anti-MAGA crowd is astonishingly uninformed on the importance of unauthorized resistance, and all the major newspapers and social media platforms are actively suppressing attempts to correct those misconceptions.
It’s fascinating. Trump is following in Hitler’s footsteps closer than anyone could have predicted, but one area where the present differs from the past is that in the years before Hitler became chancellor, Germany was rocked by frequent acts of deadly violence between Brownshirts and Communists. However I cannot think of a single analogue for the 21st century. Some people on here are talking of Civil War - clearly out of their ass, but I’m not sure that there is a line that Trump or Vance could yet cross that would trigger acts of blue-on-red violence more notable than an average British football match.
Are Americans still scared of the British monarchy?
It’s to rise up against a tyrannical government. THIS is the moment. All those people, including kids, have died during school shootings, accidents, gun violence, etc. to safeguard the right to have guns. It was all collateral damage, apparently all worth it, in case a rise against the government was necessary.
The entire world thinks it’s crazy to give up so much safety, to risk your life and of your children, for a hypothetical situation in which it’s necessary to rise up against the government. Now that this situation is created by themselves, they ask the rest of the world to intervene?
This is beyond the level of Idiocracy, because in that movie at least they listen to the smart guy.
The argument that your little piss ant semi auto AR-15 is going to do anything against a tyrannical government that can just predator drone your house has always been bullshit. They just like their toys and don’t give a fuck about children dying.
An AR15 works fine for kneecapping ICE agents though. And yes, kneecapping, I’m against killing. Let them suffer in a wheelchair without benefits for the rest of their lives, as the regime doesn’t give a fuck about sick and handicapped people. They’ll probably die in a camp as they aren’t useful workers, if the US continues the nazi Germany road.
Do you mean like that time you sat on the sidelines for three years of war and startes to act only when it looked like Germany might win Mexico over to attack you guys and you guys got scared of submarine war?
Or do you mean that time you sat on side lines for two years and started to act only when Japan sank some of your ships?
Or are you talking about the Vietnam or Korean wars that went so swimmingly?
Or the dozen military conflict after those that has only succeeded making middle east more unstable?
Or the more recent where you kidnapped a president from a neighboring country?
Im not really sure if i should be thankfull for any of those.
Since the second World War, the US is the country who keeps invading other countries the most. Next time my country is being invaded, the chance it’s the US is the most likely. So please, keep it in mind before invading another country, and stop it from happening in the first place. And don’t act like the US helps when a country is in need. It only helps if it profits oil, minirals, shady trade deals, etc. or does a dick measuring contest with someone else.
And if you’re rusty on your history, let me remind you: only the US has invoked NATO article 5, no other country ever did. We don’t need the US help, we need the US not to become the issue.
*the western world power structure invaded those nations.
Why you people act like you didn’t get shit and it’s all the big bad usa would be amusing if it wasn’t so stupid.
I’ll prove how fucking stupid you are:
If the usa went around bullying everyone and never gave anything to our UN allies then that’s fucking funny… explain the global intelligence apparatus that the major western powers all chipped in for that allowed the usa to do what it did? How about all of those not USA troops all up in those same damn countries? Explain why the fuck that isn’t on your countries? Are your countries so weak they’ve been bullied into doing all of this? Explain how the fuck your tax dollars funding those same fucking wars isn’t also your faults? You think your own countries decisions didn’t bear the same rotten fruit?
The UN isn’t your allies, it includes China and Russia. Clearly you don’t even know the difference between NATO and the UN.
that the major western powers all chipped in
You’re stronger against your enemies when you’re “friends” with the biggest bully. It’s just the choice which bully to befriend.
How about all of those not USA troops all up in those same damn countries
You mean all those troops forced into the wars the US started? Yeah well, that’s the downside of being friends with a bully.
Are your countries so weak they’ve been bullied into doing all of this?
Kinda, yeah. During the 30s and 40s we had the same issue as the US has today. When that was over, partly due to the US, they said they would protect us in the future in exchange of us not joining communism and helping them fight it. Every country wss exhausted after the war, so we didn’t have much choice. Also, Stalin wasn’t great either, so it was the best deal presented. Since then the US grew to become the biggest and strongest bully, capable to strike anything anywhere withing a few hours. And they used it to get rid of people and regimes unwilling to trade their souls to the US.
And we were stuck with the biggest asshole while being too weak to stand up against a bully. Until now, when war crimes and crimes against humanity went too far.
You think your own countries decisions didn’t bear the same rotten fruit?
Oh yes, I do think we are to blame for a lot too. But that doesn’t change the fact the US is far worse and a huge fucking problem right now. We know that issue, like I said, we had it in the 30s and 40s. But it doesn’t help when you say “but you’re bad too!” when someone calls out your country is run by elected fascists and should just fuck off and deal with it yourselves.
We, the rest of the world, are done with cleaning up your shit.
Dear US,
You got the world in this mess. You voted a criminal pedophile dictator into office, twice.
Clean up your shit yourselves. It’s what your precious second amendment is for, right?
There’s nothing more American.
Then creating a mess, and expecting someone else to clean it up.
Maybe an immigrant cleaner that they can threaten with ICE deportation to keep in check. Very on-brand.
Honestly after decades of ego and exceptionalism, this demand that other people fix issues they’ve caused themselves is pretty on-brand for the US
Manifested a destiny not to their liking and suddenly it is other people’s responsibility.
Yea those of us that tried kind of figured our allies would use some of that fucking intelligence they have been giving our country to fuck those of us that are trying over to maybe, i don’t fucking know, tell the world how they stole the election because they admitted it right on fucking TV!
Right after they fucking declared war on us on fucking TV!
But your fucking countries are in on it, too. Just you fucking wait and see. The rich that lead you sold you out too and are just waiting to cash in on you. If you let them do it to your greatest ally, you’re fucked.
Sleep well.
Spoke like a true murican.
You’re on point though, which means that because we have problems of our own, in part caused by you, we’ll just let the Great US of A solve its own shit while we’re busy solving ours.
True, but it’s time to tell them to fuck off.
Issues they caused themselves that we warned them about for decades, even
The most aggravating thing is they’ve polarised themselves into thinking any outside force refusing to “fix it” is being sanctimonious.
Nah fam. this is something you’ve built from the ground up and entrenched into your culture, so you have to fix it. Outside forces imposing will end up with another iraq. (Or afghanistan. Or libya. Or Iran. ). Hell, even Germany was headed towards burying its cat turds until niemoller & co grassrooted the idea of collective guilt to come to terms with their crimes.
It’s gotta come from inside the house.
The second amendment is for school shootings and dick measuring contests
While I empathize with the sentiment, I’ve been listening to A People’s History of the United States lately. My takeaway so far is that change is only allowed to happen by the monied interests that control our government when it becomes in their financial interest for it to happen.
Guns won’t do it. Civilians 1) can’t effectively opposed state violence with the arms and organization they’re allowed, 2) our society is violent enough that killing civilians opposing the government will always be sanctioned by some.
Typically American to say “we can’t do anything, we’re helpless, yes we have guns but they aren’t good enough”. History shows it’s totally possible to rise up against tyrants, even when they seem invincible and untouchable, and force a radical change benefitting all. Luigi showed everyone it’s possible. Everyone says they support him but no one dares what he did. If no one does anything, everyone is just complying with a fascist dictatorship. So far only Republicans tried to change things, by attempting to shoot Trump and killing Charley Kirk. The rest just continues to use billionare’s products, making them even richer and giving them even more power. All while complaining they hate it and can’t do anything.
I find it incredibly disheartening that even on this platform, your comment got five downvotes so far.
I mean, I get it, not everyone voted for him. My comment is bold and harsh. But on the other hand, it’s not our responsibility to deal with their dictator. Of course I’m willing to help, and unlike the US without oil deals or for anything else. I’m willing to help and support refugees, people who are a victim of this regime. I can’t change their system or do anything else I’m afraid. But I also think them doing nothing but complain is also not going to change anything. They aren’t fighting for their rights in a democracy anymore, protesting isn’t going to cut it if the regime doesn’t care about the law and constitution, and doesn’t recognize the judicial system whenever they feel like it. My grandparents and great grandparents joined the resistance during the second World War. I’m afraid the US is running out of effective legal, democratic options soon to fight the current regime and dictator.
It’s not just that the people downvoting you are too comfortable to fight back, it’s that by the virtue of being born in positions of extreme privilege (by worldwide and historical standards) they literally cannot conceive of a world where rights are acquired and retained through illegal or violent means, although every civil rights movement had an illegal and most often violent component to it.
There’s a reason we’re seeing pictures of Black Panthers patrolling the streets. They remember and understand that rights aren’t handed out by benevolent elites, they are acquired through violence - either direct acts thereof, or the explicit threat of it.
I honestly don’t know what to do about any of that. The task of educating Americans on the history of effectively protesting against authoritarianism seems impossible. For all that some aspects of their society are hyper-violent, the vast majority of the anti-MAGA crowd is astonishingly uninformed on the importance of unauthorized resistance, and all the major newspapers and social media platforms are actively suppressing attempts to correct those misconceptions.
It’s fascinating. Trump is following in Hitler’s footsteps closer than anyone could have predicted, but one area where the present differs from the past is that in the years before Hitler became chancellor, Germany was rocked by frequent acts of deadly violence between Brownshirts and Communists. However I cannot think of a single analogue for the 21st century. Some people on here are talking of Civil War - clearly out of their ass, but I’m not sure that there is a line that Trump or Vance could yet cross that would trigger acts of blue-on-red violence more notable than an average British football match.
Wasn’t it against the king of England?
Are Americans still scared of the British monarchy?
It’s to rise up against a tyrannical government. THIS is the moment. All those people, including kids, have died during school shootings, accidents, gun violence, etc. to safeguard the right to have guns. It was all collateral damage, apparently all worth it, in case a rise against the government was necessary.
The entire world thinks it’s crazy to give up so much safety, to risk your life and of your children, for a hypothetical situation in which it’s necessary to rise up against the government. Now that this situation is created by themselves, they ask the rest of the world to intervene?
This is beyond the level of Idiocracy, because in that movie at least they listen to the smart guy.
The argument that your little piss ant semi auto AR-15 is going to do anything against a tyrannical government that can just predator drone your house has always been bullshit. They just like their toys and don’t give a fuck about children dying.
An AR15 works fine for kneecapping ICE agents though. And yes, kneecapping, I’m against killing. Let them suffer in a wheelchair without benefits for the rest of their lives, as the regime doesn’t give a fuck about sick and handicapped people. They’ll probably die in a camp as they aren’t useful workers, if the US continues the nazi Germany road.
More second amendment fantasies, that’s what I came here for. Shoot 1 ice agent and watch the army roll into your neighbourhood. Clown face.
Do nothing and you have the same result
Apparently LoL
He stole that election, but sure.
Then take it back!
We’ll have to keep that in mind next time your countries are invaded after years of appeasement.
Do you mean like that time you sat on the sidelines for three years of war and startes to act only when it looked like Germany might win Mexico over to attack you guys and you guys got scared of submarine war?
Or do you mean that time you sat on side lines for two years and started to act only when Japan sank some of your ships?
Or are you talking about the Vietnam or Korean wars that went so swimmingly?
Or the dozen military conflict after those that has only succeeded making middle east more unstable?
Or the more recent where you kidnapped a president from a neighboring country?
Im not really sure if i should be thankfull for any of those.
Ratioed
Since the second World War, the US is the country who keeps invading other countries the most. Next time my country is being invaded, the chance it’s the US is the most likely. So please, keep it in mind before invading another country, and stop it from happening in the first place. And don’t act like the US helps when a country is in need. It only helps if it profits oil, minirals, shady trade deals, etc. or does a dick measuring contest with someone else.
And if you’re rusty on your history, let me remind you: only the US has invoked NATO article 5, no other country ever did. We don’t need the US help, we need the US not to become the issue.
*the western world power structure invaded those nations.
Why you people act like you didn’t get shit and it’s all the big bad usa would be amusing if it wasn’t so stupid.
I’ll prove how fucking stupid you are:
If the usa went around bullying everyone and never gave anything to our UN allies then that’s fucking funny… explain the global intelligence apparatus that the major western powers all chipped in for that allowed the usa to do what it did? How about all of those not USA troops all up in those same damn countries? Explain why the fuck that isn’t on your countries? Are your countries so weak they’ve been bullied into doing all of this? Explain how the fuck your tax dollars funding those same fucking wars isn’t also your faults? You think your own countries decisions didn’t bear the same rotten fruit?
Look in the fucking mirror.
The UN isn’t your allies, it includes China and Russia. Clearly you don’t even know the difference between NATO and the UN.
You’re stronger against your enemies when you’re “friends” with the biggest bully. It’s just the choice which bully to befriend.
You mean all those troops forced into the wars the US started? Yeah well, that’s the downside of being friends with a bully.
Kinda, yeah. During the 30s and 40s we had the same issue as the US has today. When that was over, partly due to the US, they said they would protect us in the future in exchange of us not joining communism and helping them fight it. Every country wss exhausted after the war, so we didn’t have much choice. Also, Stalin wasn’t great either, so it was the best deal presented. Since then the US grew to become the biggest and strongest bully, capable to strike anything anywhere withing a few hours. And they used it to get rid of people and regimes unwilling to trade their souls to the US.
And we were stuck with the biggest asshole while being too weak to stand up against a bully. Until now, when war crimes and crimes against humanity went too far.
Oh yes, I do think we are to blame for a lot too. But that doesn’t change the fact the US is far worse and a huge fucking problem right now. We know that issue, like I said, we had it in the 30s and 40s. But it doesn’t help when you say “but you’re bad too!” when someone calls out your country is run by elected fascists and should just fuck off and deal with it yourselves.
We, the rest of the world, are done with cleaning up your shit.
How ironic.
You mean greenland? Ukraine? Venezuela?
Or is this another pathetic attenpt to claim the US alone won world war II?
It’s quite telling that when you jump to conclusions as to what I meant, you end up at an extreme take.
Then tell us exactly what you were alluding to.
Go on
While you’re there, clarify what is extreme about the take.
You Mean,when You are going to invade us and afterwards say “sorry about that fellow ally, we won’t do that again”?