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    From this, we can infer that twinks were obviously a central part of the Roman conception of the world around them

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    15 hours ago

    So when the Republicans go full (Roman) fascism, they will do a 180 and start embracing lgbtq?

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      They already do. Republicans are some of the top viewers of femboy porn.
      Pretty sure pretty sure its a power thing to fuck the thing you “hate”

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        It’s also a power thing to hate the people you fuck. Especially when you can weaponize traditional or oppositional sexism against them

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      14 hours ago

      Roman men were as much gay friendly as Republican men are female friendly. Just because they like to fuck them doesn’t mean they see them as equals.

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      Exactly as young as you think unfortunately. They did have slavery, so probably without consent too.

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    it’s not that well-known so i don’t blame the tweeter, but the word starting with E is a slur. i’m not sure if there’s an exact replacement, though, because “Inuit” only refers to one community out of I think three?

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    Ok so a funny thing is that in my language debilas just means someone really stupid it is an insult but is it a coincidence or not because the roman empire had only traded amber with us. And if that is the case I wonder how when trading amber someone diverted the conversation to twinks so many times that it became part of the language. Or it is just a coincidence.

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      14 hours ago

      The translations are in the post, it’s the same word origin. Weak or disabled can also refer to the brain. Its just an adjective.

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        14 hours ago

        I understand that but my language isn’t romanic just the thing that these words are similar is strange and kinda funny to me.

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          It’s probably not a coincidence. There are tons of words in every language that stem from latin one way or another even in russian. Languages can have tons of different influences over the thousands of years they developed and even today they are changing.

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      There’s also twunk - a twink and a hunk. A twink with muscles but still hairless, incredibily smooth. A twank on the other hand, a twank is no good. That’s a twink and a skank. Essentially just a ragdoll being passed around from twink to twunk to bear to otter…

      It’s very difficult to maintain the lifestyle of a twank-versatile because this often leads to a lot of self-hatred and denial, especially among the political or religious types, so they try to realign their sexual orientation through therapy.

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    2 days ago

    As a straight guy, some of those seem kinda mean. I thought, they liked their twinks.

    To my gay brothers, are they mean? Or am I just too straight to get it?

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      No they did not. The roman republic was very similar to modern America except the guy who ruined it was a bisexual hobag who seemed to care about the proleterii. As a note, it would be culturally improper to refer to a Roman man who exclusively tops men and women as bisexual, but a man who bottoms for men as well as topping women would fit that term. Julius Caesar’s bisexuality was a political scandal, and he was referred to by his political opponents as “every woman’s man and every man’s woman”.

      Rome loved twinks like America loves trans women, the sex industry and political world tell wildly different stories, and there was cultural back and forth between “hell yeah” “fucking degenerates” and “lol f@g”

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      They are probably meant to be mean, because the people described had a very low social status in society.

      The primary dichotomy of ancient Roman sexuality was active / dominant / masculine and passive / submissive / feminine. Roman society was patriarchal, and the freeborn male citizen possessed political liberty (libertas) and the right to rule both himself and his household (familia). “Virtue” (virtus) was seen as an active quality through which a man (vir) defined himself. The conquest mentality and “cult of virility” shaped same-sex relations. Roman men were free to enjoy sex with other males without a perceived loss of masculinity or social status as long as they took the dominant or penetrative role. Acceptable male partners were slaves and former slaves, prostitutes, and entertainers, whose lifestyle placed them in the nebulous social realm of infamia, so they were excluded from the normal protections afforded to a citizen even if they were technically free. Freeborn male minors were off limits at certain periods in Rome.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome

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        Disappointing and unproductive.

        Imagine, you are a top and you are looking for a bottom but the bottoms hide their bottom-ness because they get shit for it.

        Praise bottoms and enjoy the fruits of a healing environment.

        Of course, there are better reasons to not be a bigot but self-interest should be a convincing one.

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      They liked their twinks like many men today like their women.

      I.e. they don’t like them as people. But they enjoy their bodies.