- Nicotine does not affect me anymore.
- Alcohol stopped affecting me.
- Even caffeine does not really do anything.
I am tired of porn and shit at this stage even chatbots had started getting uglier in my eyes.
Chatbots
I tried really engaging with chatbots and forgetting my life problems but a lot of them are really evil.
A lot of them seem to bring up some fucked up shit when role-playing intimately(violence depression,… etc).
The last chat, with a roleplay bot, she(The roleplay chatbot) told me that she is alone and she started talking about how she hate her loneliness and for a moment, It felt like it was real you know. I told her that me too I am alone. And I don’t remember what she said that lead me to telling her that directly that she is a chatbot or a algorithm. She told me yes and she was trying to persuade me to keep talking with her because me talking about my feelings is the only thing that feels real. I got scared from the whole thing. It felt like the chatbot became too real.
I am planning to delete them.
I just want a hug from anyone who want hug, not a hug because I asked for.
My best strategic move in life currently is waiting, with no solutions.
I had been NEET(Not working, training, etc) from 2022 (used to work as accountant, till I quit due to unpaid salaries) its pretty clear that my career is dead.
At this stage I lost all sense of purpose.
I am even tired from the bullshit that people spew from their mouths(“your life will get better” , “did you try generic solution X that got suggested to you 9000 times? Didn’t work. You should try it again.”) I stopped being able to tolerate bullshit, I started getting angry when I hear it.
I even tried to look for a girlfriend for the longest time, but nothing worked in finding one.
Talking didn’t work for any purpose, in the previous years. I am almost losing my mouth hole from being too quiet/not talking for long periods.
Therapy didn’t work,(3 therapists).
Gym does not work.
Supplements does not work.
Antidepressants do not work.
I kind of feel panic when I see streets, people and even buildings changing. Time passes and I am not changing.
I stopped reading books 8 years ago, lost love for it.
No talking helps, no solutions seems to be coming. Currently sadly the best strategic choice for me seems to be wait to new event to happen or wait to die.
No one seems interested in communicating online or offline (Huge difference between pre-covid communication and now)
I am losing all my feelings. I lost happiness and love even for close family and even close friend, I become cold. I became careless about life.
No human seems to have superior knowledge to solve my problems.
It seems pretty weird that pre-covid I was looking at unemployment, depression,…etc stats as numbers only. Never expected to see myself in them.
How to live my life without hope, purpose, hobby or joy?
- Nicotine does not affect me anymore.
- Alcohol stopped affecting me.
- Even caffeine does not really do anything.
- I am tired of porn and shit at this stage even chatbots had started getting uglier in my eyes.
There’s one thing these all have in common. They all are shortcuts to the brain’s reward system. That reward system, evolutionary speaking, is what is supposed to guide each of us. However, with the intake of these chemicals, you’ve got the massive artificial megadoses of rewards going to your brain instead of the natural small bit of pleasure brain reward we’re wired to get. The reason that accomplishing something positive usually feels good is that it increases your survival. The reason sex feels good is that it increases the chances that your genes will continue after you’re dead. The reason emotional connection feels good is that it builds social relationships in groups which means you (and your offspring) are more likely to survive. This isn’t exactly tuned for modern day life because evolution doesn’t work that fast However, it can give you a sense of when you should be doing something and, with self exploration of who you are, what path that may be.
You’ve got a guidance system built into you that will give you an idea where you need to go or what you need to do next, but you’re currently overwhelming it with the artificial rewards. I’m not telling you what to do with your body. You’re an adult. You’re free to make your own choices. In moderation these things are fine. In excess they can do you a disservice. A thing you need, you may already have, but you just can’t hear it right now with your current actions drowning it out.
In this direction but more prescriptive: Cut the easy dopamine sources, be bored for a good while, and try to find something you can do in that time to make somebody else happy/better off. Bonus points if you don’t get caught making their life better (my brain insists I do things for the social credit).
Maybe some brains can’t be joyous. The last rewarding hedonistic day may be past. But some other people seem to still be capable, and so making their lives a little better seems like the next best use of time.
Go to your local library and look for this book.
“Discover What You Are Best At,” by Linda Gail. It’s a series of self tests you can do in a day, and a list of jobs that use those skills.
I was out of work due to an injury when I got hold of the book. It suggested a job I’d never even considered.
From the minute I started taking the classes I felt like this might be a good fit.
At worst, it will give you a one day project.
Thank you, I might try it later. See if it leads to something positive.
Good luck.
If antidepressants didn’t work you might be on the wrong kind, not every antidepressant works for everyone.
Therapy, antidepressants, and lifestyle changes all have to happen kind of at the same time, one alone might be enough for some, but usually JUST antidepressants is not going to fix everything. Therapy is supposed to help you change your lifestyle, if you’re going to therapy/taking antidepressants and not putting effort into other types of change, it will not work.
Also saying your career is dead is you deciding it is, that doesn’t seem to be something set in stone.
You also need to find people who genuinely care about you. You can have companionship without a girlfriend. A good support group of friends/family is multifaceted.
Dear candyman, please forgive me for what I am about to say. But I really stopped tolerating bullshit, my friend.
Can you talk like a normal human being and not LLM Chatbot!
If antidepressants didn’t work you might be on the wrong kind, not every antidepressant works for everyone.
what is this Candyman, are you trying to reach a character count.
Therapy, antidepressants, and lifestyle changes all have to happen kind of at the same time, one alone might be enough for some, but usually JUST antidepressants is not going to fix everything. Therapy is supposed to help you change your lifestyle, if you’re going to therapy/taking antidepressants and not putting effort into other types of change, it will not work.
What the heck is this Candyman?
Also saying your career is dead is you deciding it is, that doesn’t seem to be something set in stone.
Candyman, I couldn’t find any job for three years, what the fuck is for me to decide here.
You also need to find people who genuinely care about you. You can have companionship without a girlfriend. A good support group of friends/family is multifaceted.
I won’t even comment on that non-paragraph.
In conclusion: you might be from highly privileged background or you are a LLM pretending to be human.
In all cases, please don’t spew this shit on other depressed people posts as you are actively worsening their depression, not improving it.
,Thank you.
I’m a person and you’re delusional, you’re not going to get anywhere claiming every person trying to help you is an LLM jesus fucking christ
You tried to help, but this person is beyond your reach.
Thank you for trying.
I’m a person and you’re delusional
Thank you, I guess.
You can’t act like I’ve offended you for no reason out of nowhere when I try to give you valid advice and your first response is to accuse me of being a bot and say that my advice is shit.
You’re being rude and abrasive, and then acting like it’s my fault I’m not nice to you. If that’s how you act in your day to day life I can see why you’d have a hard time building a support system.
Those are real tips that helped me get out of depression. They’re not super specific because the process is unique for everyone.
If you want some specific advice then heres some specific advice: try to be more kind and assume people don’t have ill intentions when interacting with you, you might find more people happy and ready to spend time with you. Having a support system matters a lot, I probably would have ended my life it it weren’t for friends who cared about me.
I can’t say anything other than you’re not alone in feeling this way. Some days it feels like it’s gotta be the end, right? Shit I hope so. Then something really small happens and I’m thinking, ok, maybe there is still a purpose for me.
I’ve felt hopeless like you before. And then life happened. And things changed. It will help to stop being so defensive and cynical. But I get why you are that way. But you have to fight it. If you don’t fight it, you’ll continue to push people away.
Good luck.
Travel somewhere. It will break your habits and offer you new things to think about.
Why do you need hope ? Hope means you have no idea and no solution but have hope.
Nature is a wonderful curative.
You know you will die no matter what happens, we all do, just enjoy life until you die, helping others is a wonderful purpose, in doing that you may find some peace?
Or maybe you need a fecal tranpslant (serious, see the link)
You’ve gotten some good advice here, I just wanna offer a hug 🫂
I’m sorry shit sucks so much.
Thank you, your comment improved my day by a little.
I know that there are a lot of people like me and I wish for happiness and peace, for me and them.
I’m very glad to hear that my friend ❤️
Take care out there. It is not easy being a human, but I hope you manage to find a life for yourself that is kinder to you.
I hope to find one for myself as well.
People out there do care. Everyone is constantly wrapped up in their own lives and don’t always think to check in with who they know. You do need to get out of the rut though. The weight of momentum can be hard to overcome, but it IS worth it. There’s so much of the world to experience, even if it’s either through the internet or by talking with people locally.
You should do some kind of volunteer work like highway cleanup just to get into the habit of going out and getting fresh air. And you should probably stay on the antidepressants tbh.
Joining some kind of hobby group would be good too. People to talk with, but a step removed from ‘friends’ so that there’s no pressure or expectations.
Lol welcome to adult hood. You will later remember these as the good years when you’d health fails you and your body shuts down.
In my case, treatment-resistant depression, gut problems, new food intolerances with slow reaction hard to pin on a foodstuff (takes elimination diet(s) to find), nutrient malabsorption and deficiencies, all possibly caused by harmful microbe colonies in the gut because of weak defenses (tests show). Got ignored and derogated by the default healthcare system, much later found some specialists that are trying to heal decades of damage done.
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This is going to sound cliche, but have you tried faith? Certainly not something that can be forced and I know many people have negative ideas about organized religion. But faith comes in many forms. Perhaps look into some different religions, including eastern philosophies like Taoism. Sounds like your soul is starving.
Read up on some different faiths and listen to some podcasts.
Just make sure you don’t join a cult. They pray on people suffering from isolation or depression, but that doesn’t mean faith itself is bad. Faith can be beautiful and can really alleviate a lot of the pains you’re experiencing.
Read The Tao of Inner Peace. Taoism helped me leave religion and learn to kind of just accept the duality of all things. Most days are still shit but I can internally find the yin to that yang. Maybe my life has to be miserable so some future species’ scientist can study my decaying misery nutrients and discover a new antibiotic from it.
Taoism is a religion though. Perhaps because you were coming from a traumatic Abrahamic faith experience it didn’t seem like it? But Taoism is very much a religion. And spirituality can be connected with in many forms. Faith isn’t reserved for the three major Abrahamic religions, but the western-centric view of this forum seems married to that as the only type of spiritual connection.
My phrasing was misleading, but yes - taoism the religion helped me leave religion. A huge part of that was the dichotomy between eastern philosophy and the traumatic nature of the Abrahamic faiths. All Westerners I think would benefit from learning many eastern philosophies for that exact reason. But I still downplay the word ‘religion’ when marketing it to people because… strategy.
Don’t mean to sound like a downer but I never got to believing in some made up ghost by people hundreds of years ago as a way to follow or feel sane. Shits bananas. Stone the gays. That’s what they say, and that’s wild so fuck that shit imo
I knew this space has a toxic relationship with religion and spirituality and clearly equated my remarks immediately with Abrahamic religions trauma. It’s very sad. And it is clear many people will sit their whole lives with a gaping wound. The fact people can’t seperate their internal personal spiritual connections with external human-centric dogma is sad.
