Israel has seen emigration double since the attacks of October 7, 2023, and the subsequent war in Gaza. While some are choosing to leave for security reasons, among those choosing exile are activists weary of war and feeling increasingly isolated amid their country’s illiberal drift.
Fuck Israel, genocidal scum!
Unfortunately many of them will face discrimination in Europe, and part of it will be from people who think that dunking on diaspora jews is somehow pro-palestinian. The opposite is true: any antisemitic microaggression sends the message that Zionists are right and only in Israel can Jews be truly safe. Instead, making sure these people are safe, happy and incentivized to stay put in the diaspora and never go back to being colonizers must be part of pro-palestinian praxis. This is why the fight against antisemitism in Europe is intrinsically linked with the fight for Palestinian liberation: prove the basic premise of Zionism wrong!
People are smart enough to don’t knock palestinians liberation mouvement over some extremists. It’s anti palestine occupation and genocide who are generally facing repercusion for being vocal about it not the opposite like you claiming. Israel and zionists are thr biggest promoter of antisemitism they want to portray anti zionism as antisemitism so when someone see idf terrorists murdering kids they start to devlop hate toward jews in general
You’re talking about government repression but I’m talking about antisemitism. In my city (Montreal) there have been a few arsons and bombing attacks on Jewish schools, and some more minor things (like some idiot doing seig heils at a pro Palestine protest, or some other idiot beating up a Jewish dad in front of his kids). We thankfully haven’t had any casualties, and everyone that is sane is condemning these incidents, including obviously the anti-genocide movement, but the Jews are rightfully spooked. Hell, I was spooked because my kid’s school was close to a Jewish school that was targeted, I can only imagine how terrified they would be.
Of course the Zionist lie that somehow opposing Israeli apartheid and genocide is “antisemitism” is hollowing out the word and making things worse and actually creating the ground for less-than-smart people to fall for antisemitic propaganda by actual hateful fuckfaces. So it’s the job of the rest of us to keep up the vigilance.
Protecting Jews in the West is (a) a moral obligation towards our fellow citizens, and (b) denying Zionism it’s Big Lie, thus laying the foundation for Palestinian Liberation.
I am also from Montreal. Violence against both jews and Muslims increased after 7 of Octobers. All groups should be protected, it also feel like jews safety are more important than anybody else rather than being as important as protecting other groups. Many Montreal Zionists get outraged by anything related to Palestine it’s so ridiculous , like some orgs raising money for Palestinians with bakery sale get flooded by Zionists talking about how that money will go to Hamas. NDG NPD candidate in the previous election was also accused of supporting hamas, this is a really serious accusation
Tabarouette bro. Look, I’m not saying Jewish safety is “more important than anybody else”. Jews deserve safety like everyone else. Beyond that, what I’m saying is that it is important from the point of view of Palestine liberation. I’m also not defending obnoxious idiots (see above), who threaten other people. Safety also doesn’t mean silencing politics: let’s debate and argue until we turn blue in the face, but let’s do it as concitoyens. Any Jew who decides to stay here and not do Aliya is a win for Palestine.
Edit: The extreme Zionists especially: better they stay here than they go there to act out their fascist fantasies. In Canada at least they don’t get to go around doing pogroms on Palestinians. Keep them here. Maybe their children will see the stupidity of always acting threatened.
In Canada at least they don’t get to go around doing pogroms on Palestinians.
Canada didn’t intervene when Zionist organizations went selling Palestinians land in the west bank in synagogues
That makes my point even more. In Canada, they are subject to our laws and our politics. We can push our authorities to do their job. We have agency and bandwidth here that the Palestinians over there don’t.
No, that doesn’t make you point. Canada should definitely intervene and punish orgs that sell occupied lands to Canadian Zionists. Which law allow them to do this terrible immoral thing?
There no Zionist orgs in Canadian terrorism list showing the double standard
Dunking on Israelis is probably fine though. Just like dunking on Americans. it’s up to them to prove that they are not the racist kind.
Nah, unless they’re being obnoxious (eg going around chanting death to Arabs or whatever) dunking on anyone based on their origin is dumb. Leave people be. I wouldn’t want people dunking on random French people just because France still has a colonial empire and holds west African economies hostage.
Yeah I lived abroad for a while and it sure was fun having a bunch of randos lecture me in how awful America is. Like, dude, I grew up there, I’m aware of all these things. Also notice I left?
This is how mainstream media should report on Israel, by showing what a fascistic hellhole it is that even its own citizen flee because there’s no room for wrongthink.
At least they have the option unlike the poor souls being eradicated in Gaza…And yet Gazians can’t flee
Why is this in ‘Europe’?
Fair questions but a lot of them are gonna end up in Europe and Jewish Israelis are by demographics mostly European settlers, either from Western Europe or (post-)communist Europe. They are not indigenous to that region, and it would be just playing in the hands of Zionist propaganda to pretend that they would be. Now that shit hits the fan they rediscover their origins and I think that’s relevant for us to know.
Akshually, around 45% of Israeli jews are of Middle Eastern and North African descent, around the same as those from Europe
Yes I’ve read that same Wikipedia article. It’s a fair point but Zionism as a movement was started by European Jews and every prime minister ever since the establishment of the settler colony has been Ashkenazi. It’s designed by and for European Jews, the rest are just pawns to keep up the demographics. In that sense, even if they’re technically exactly the same or even if they’d be slightly more, it wouldn’t change much about the fact that European Jews are THE dominant group there.
Ok but if you believe that they constitute the real OG hARdCorE zionist gangstas, then why would you argue that they would be the ones leaving??
I don’t know what you’re on about here or what this has to with beliefs exactly, I just corrected your "correction“
My correction on how most jewish Israelis today aren´t exactly (descendants of) European settlers? How did your post ´correct´ that? You only argued the other jews don´t really count as you consider them pawns lol
Ok Zionist
By the article a lot of them go to Greece. The two interviewed people went to Greece and Italy.
Many Israeli citizens have grandparents who grew up in Europe, or who fled to the US from Europe and then went to Israel.
Netanyahus original family name is Mileikowsky, his fathers family is from Warsaw and his father was an important figure in the Zionist movement. His mothers family went from Lithuania to the US and then to Palestine during the last years of the Ottoman empire.
Netanyahus original family name is Mileikowsky, his fathers family is from Warsaw and his father was an important figure in the Zionist movement. His mothers family went from Lithuania to the US and then to Palestine during the last years of the Ottoman empire.
Thank you for this explanation. Now it’s clear why this article is posted in the “Europe” community. (/s)
There is a strong cultural and personal interconnection. Many parts of European politics and Israeli politics, see Israel as an outpost of “Europe” in West Asia.
People already mentioned Eurovision. When it comes to sports, Israel also participates in European leagues in many sports such as football, basketball, handball, marathon and many more.
As more people will flee from Israel, most of them will either go to EU countries or the US.
Even if we assume for a moment that this is a justification for posting the article here, what has this to do with Netanyahus original family and the Ottoman empire in you initial comment?
This is just another pseudo-intellectual gibberish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_the_Ottoman_Empire
The partition of the Ottoman Empire (30 October 1918 – 1 November 1922) was a geopolitical event that occurred after World War I and the occupation of Constantinople by British, French, and Italian troops in November 1918.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British Government in 1917 during the First World War announcing its support for the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population.
The family history of Netanyahu is a peak example of Israel being a political project mostly by Europeans, or European Americans. It is the “European” answer to the problem of “European” Antisemitism and many aspects of the logic that bound Antisemitism and Zionism at the time of Netanyahus parents persist to this day.
You can neither look at the history of Israel nor at today’s Israel without looking at Europe (and the US) as well.
Once upon a time in East Africa the homo sapiens migrated to the other world areas. So we post everything in ‘Africa’ now?
If this is an explanation, you can eliminate the communities completely, because everything is connected with everything.
“once upon a time” vs. “within the lifetime of a significant part of the population or their parents”.
If we where to turn that argument around, you would also have to argue that anything that happened since idk. the 90s or so should just be ignored and not seen as relevant anymore, no matter how much it ties in with how the world is currently.
As i have explained before, the strong interconnection between Israel and mainland Europe is ongoing and it will have strong implications for the future of both. So the past, present and future are deeply connected.
Maybe OP was thinking of the Eurovision Song Contest kind of Europe
No region has more experience with fleeing fascism than Europe.
Because a lot of them are probably fleeing to Europe?
Does posting to a European community require the content to be relevant exclusively to Europe?
I’m mean yeah, that’s kind of the point.
So if it’s relevant to Europeans but also others, it shouldn’t be posted?
It should be relevant for Europe. Doesn’t matter who else it’s relevant for.
So this post is ok then
This is somewhat related:
China’s growth can usher in a new era for China–Israel cooperation
“Chinese capital can help Israeli startups expand globally, while Israeli technology can support China’s industrial upgrading,” explains Xiao Junzheng, Chinese Ambassador to Israel.
Seems not all have given up on Israel.
Nobody has giving up on israel unfortunatly. Countries still buy and sell military equipement to israel and refuse to sanction the state of israel itself
Hope we prevent these illegal migrants from entering Europe. Keep the Israelis out!
Are they burning their passports? Otherwise, this barely matters. They will still be counted as residents for months and possibly still contributing to the state fiscally. As long as they are just physically leaving the country they are little more than an uncomfortable externality on the hosting countries.
Why would they still be counted as residents after they emigrated? And what would burning their passports do? Pretty sure that would just make them unable to travel.
Resident figures are not updated instantly, so it would take a statistically significant action to counteract any claims by the Israeli government.
I meant burning their passports figuratively, but there are estimates of around 10% of the Israeli population holding a double citizenship, and I am quite sure these are overrepresented in the “emigrating” population. Those should renounce the Israeli citizenship if they really wanted to send any kind of message on top of just saving their asses from any kind of retaliation + bad publicity.
