• KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    So plenty of people have pointed out this tweet is satire, but similar sentiment has been shared by Andrew Tate, Nick Fuentes, and other “manosphere”/alt-right grifters.

    I just want to put out clearly what these men mean, and what the dog-whistle here is: They are not saying a man with a penis fucking a woman’s pussy is gay. They are saying that a man following all the acts of affection and consideration to the physical and emotional wants and needs of your partner is: effeminate, inferior, non-masculine, and therefore “gay”. This is what incels argue when they complain about “modern women” and divorce and “gold diggers”. Being anything less than an egotist, entitle, aggressive prick is “gay”; and they know just as well as their critics, that few women would take a relationship like that.

    The Turning Point USA/Heritage Foundation evangelical-type want women as Second-Class Citizens. The manosphere/incel type want women as property – sold from father to husband property. (Well, that’s the vision they sell. The grifters want men single and alone; shut-in and consuming their content.)

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    Let me make this loud and clear. If you’re a gay man with a boyfriend in 2025, you’re straight.

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      There’s nothing more heterosexual than sex with another man. The vagina is too soft, feminine and accommodating. To raw-dog or be raw-dogged by another man takes strength, determination and perseverance. These are values that are exemplified in a healthy heterosexual relationship, therefore gay is straight and straight is gay.

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    FELLAS, Is it GAY to have a girlfriend? You’re literally dating someone who likes MEN!

    FELLAS, is it GAY to breath? You’re literally breathing in shit that’s been inside other men.

    FELLAS, is it GAY to fucking EXIST? A PART OF YOU CAME OUT A MAN’S BALLS!

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    I realize this is satire, but the reason his stuff sounds insane is not just because it is, but because men are attracted to women yet do not like women.

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      I worked with people who were super homophobic and just overall chauvinistic as fuck. I always said things that made them question if I was gay or not, and it was the only thing that brightened my day. I would always say things like: having sex with a woman is kinda gay, idk. Getting rammed by a big dude, now that’s manly

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        There is no way he said this literally. Maybe you should watch that video if you haven’t heard of him.

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          The dude does not believe in relationships with women. He believes in fucking women (with or without their consent) and pimping them out. Having a girlfriend is acknowledging a woman as human, which is “gay,” because real men only view women as chattel. That’s what he’s saying. I’m sorry you don’t have the critical thinking skills to understand that.

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            Lmao I know who he is. Your post is satire, you stupid fuck. Saying your moral and intellectual superior lacks critical thinking skills for accurately describing your post is pathetic.

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              Your post is satire

              Seems like everyone here understands that this post is satire, including the OP. They wouldn’t have posted it to the shitpost community if they thought otherwise.

              you stupid fuck.

              When you point one finger, three are pointing back at you.

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                I might be the dumbest person here, but even if this is made up and supposed to be satire, this is exactly what I would expect him to say, because he would think using women rather than having a relationship is preferred. I would honeslty be shocked if he didn’t think relationships with women were gay.

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                Seems like everyone here understands

                Nope. I mentioned it in passing when accurately describing what the real issue here is, and worthless dumbfuck Ajen level intellect OP told me I had never heard of him.

                Blah blah blah

                You are also a moron.

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    Andrew Tate is a very capable scammer. He says dumb shit like this such that he’ll be shared, then he’ll bring you into the sales funnel by first of all saying something that sounds very reasonable but aligns with his views in the background. This is just to get you listening and then slowly but surely he’s going to radicalise you into the online manosphere.

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    Let me make this loud and clear: Andrew Tate is a sex trafficking rapist that should not be allowed to live in a civil society

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    this is like that 4chan greentext about how you can’t watch porn if you’re a fragile straight because straight porn is gay since it has a naked guy and lesbian porn is gay because it’s actually gay

    These people are morons but the ones at the top like him are psychotic. They’re purposely trying to get their “followers” isolated from anyone that may soften their views and talk sense into them. I’m sure Tate and similar “influencers” know tons of incel/mra/nofap/redpill/mde/etc types that buy into this shit soften their views considerably (and stop buying and watching shit) when they finally get a partner

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      These people are morons but the ones at the top like him are psychotic. They’re purposely trying to get their “followers” isolated from anyone that may soften their views and talk sense into them.

      Yeah that’s basically the goal here. This is classic cult tactics that are used by your classic “Drink the Koolaid” cults but also terrorist groups.

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      Common lesbian porn isn’t gay. Who doesn’t want to be a woman pounded by another woman?

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        Wasn’t the greentext about how a woman with a penis having sex with one without a penis is the most straight? Something like hetero sex is 50% gay to watch, woman-with-penis on woman-without-penis is 25% gay, and two women-without-penis is again fully gay.

        It’s like rock paper scissors with trans and homophobia, but you have to give credit for at least having a consistent world view.

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    phew i was sucking dicks left and right and i was worried i was gay. But since i dont have a gf…

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      Sounds like you spend a lot of time hanging out with men. Nothing straighter than some men spending quality time together.

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    It’s all about the transitive property, if you have a sex with a girl, you are having sex with all the guys she had sex with, that’s pretty gay.

    On the other hand having sex with chad who slept with plenty of women, by the transitive property you are having sex with all those women. That straight as fuck.

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      If the first dude slept with women who slept with men, that makes him gay.
      But then the other dude sleeps with him, making him second-hand gay?
      Just like with passive smoking.

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        Obviously, assuming both the woman and the chad slept with 10 people before, the first guy is 10 gay. The second guy is (1-10)=-9 gay, which is pretty straight.

        The math doesn’t lie, I’m sorry, I don’t make the rules.

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    Yeah, it’s gay, because, surprise-surprise, you’re having sex with a woman! /s

    Jokes aside, for many of these men, gay just means you failed their version of hegemonic masculinity