• Hildegarde@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Not enough for voters who are undecided about whether to vote or not.

      Democrats win when turnout is high. It’s not enough to be better than the opponent, to win they must beat apathy.

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        2 years ago

        The two current candidates are so far apart the people who claim to be undecided are ignorant or stupid, willingly or otherwise. I’d understand riding the fence between Biden and Bernie, even if I’ve made my choice between them, but between Trump and Biden?

        That’s the kind of person who is undecided if they want to drive to work or walk down the middle of i-95

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          I think you are perhaps uninformed about the economic state of the poor and working class. Biden hasn’t done a whole lot about people’s grocery bills doubling and tripling, or the soaring increases in rent while the housing supply has remained artificially low, but he’s made sure that blank checks for war appear out of thin air at every turn.

          Can’t expect to win an election like this when people can’t afford to miss a day of work.

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            Tell me what you think he could have done without Congress.

            Let’s hear it.

            Give me the actual steps that you believe Biden could have done but did not do.

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            Yeahhhh, no.

            Like the original commenter said, you are either ignorant or stupid.

            Anyone who actively lived during Trump’s awful years in office has all the info we need to NOT vote for that fucking orange idiot, and instead CLAMBER to anyone with ANY semblance of sanity.

            If you honestly think that Biden losing will help anyone in any way whatsoever (besides Trump and his little rich bastards who are as evil as he is), you, and anyone else who feels that way, are a lost cause.

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              Anyone who is eligible to vote actively lived through the trump years. And a third of those voters disagree with you. Calling them stupid is not an effective way to help them change their minds or voting decisions.

              Day to day economic realities matter to the average voter.

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                I don’t give a flying fuck about changing anyones mind any more. If you actively lived through the awful Trump years, you don’t need your fucking mind changed. Most of those “third of voters” are a lost cause, so I do not give a fuck about trying to get them to maybe open their eyes just a little bit.

                Also, yes, I’m sure the “economic realities” really matter to those voters when this is who they will allow back into office.

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      Honestly, no. In Turkey the opposition used that strategy since 2002 and lost every single vote, except the last local elections where they finally decided to do things a little differently (+ the financial crisis). If your only selling point is “not being the other guy” then your whole election campaign is basically an advertising for the other guy.

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        Exactly this. It just boils down to manufacturing consent for the other guy’s terrible policies, and results in hopelessness leading to voter apathy. Braindead strategy with 0 concept of leadership.