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Wealthy consultants: I know you’ve tried running as republicans-lite. We suggest that you move further to the right.
DNC: brilliant
Don’t forget, absolute, unthinking support of Israel under all circumstances. Even thinking about why you support Israel antisemitic, and this issue is more important than any domestic issue. Literally losing to Republicans is preferable to budging 1mm on this .
checking under the hood of the DNC
Curious, all I’m seeing is more consultants.
even worse, they’re all conservative consultants.
Bernie: I have +45 on young male voters, and +12 over Trump if elected as the DNC nominee.
DNC: Were going to learn nothing from this, ever.
they’d rather see the corporate candidate lose than the popular candidate win
thats why they have a habit of choosing Republicans.
The DNC prefers maga chuds to any progressive in any seat.
What exactly is it you suggest they do about Bernie’s primary loss? Stop holding democratic primaries and just pick their own candidate who scores well in general polls?
What exactly is it you suggest they do about Bernie’s primary loss?
Stop. Ratfucking. Progressives.
Stop holding democratic primaries and just pick their own candidate who scores well in general polls?
As opposed to not holding primaries and picking a surefire loser like they did last year?
My dude.
Kamala wasn’t chosen through a primary. Did you forget that?
The Dems are already acting as rediculous as you think they shouldn’t be.
And they have been for a long time. At least since Bernie.
Everyone in the US memory holed the DNC trial where they went to court and defended their right to pick whoever the fuck they wanted for a candidate over holding primaries.
In June 2016, a class action lawsuit was filed against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and former DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz for violating the DNC Charter by rigging the Democratic presidential primaries for Hillary Clinton against Bernie Sanders.
DNC attorneys argued that the DNC would be well within their rights to select their own candidate.
“In evaluating Plaintiffs’ claims at this stage, the Court assumes their allegations are true—that the DNC and Wasserman Schultz held a palpable bias in favor Clinton and sought to propel her ahead of her Democratic opponent,”
So the DNC has learned nothing and already is as stupid as you think they shouldn’t be.
Here’s what the DNC should do: Support who their voters think is popular, not their corporate financers.
All this bullshit could have been avoided if they did that with Bernie the first time. They learned nothing then did it again with Biden/ Kamala a second time. Now they’re doing it again with Mamdani for a third.
No, she wasn’t, Joseph Biden was. He won some states completely unopposed, because you’d be insane to challenge an incumbent. Would you prefer Joe Biden and his Ass Cancer had ridden it out until the end instead of handing it off to his VP?
And yeah, Shultz liked his own party better than the third party participating on his ticket, and that might have had some negligible impact on the 3 Million more votes that Clinton received than Bernie.
Would you prefer Joe Biden and his Ass Cancer had ridden it out until the end instead of handing it off to his VP?
I would have preffered the DNC dropped Joe with enough time to run a primary that DNC voters could have picked a candidate from. Especially given that he had cancer and likely knew about it during the election.
Instead, he dropped out way too late.
Because the DNC thought someone with ass cancer would look strong in a debate against a drugged up Trump.
Then they panicked when ass cancer grandpa failed the easiest debate in the history of presidential debates and then wasn’t polling as the “strong incumbent” you were made to believe he was.
The DNC waited too long to realise Biden wouldn’t win against billions of disinformation spending, and all they had to do was hold another primary to elect a new candidate to win.
Instead they waited too long - switched to Kamala too late - and then completely ran out of time.
Just like they took too long to persecute Trump. Too long to expand the court. Too long to codify Roe vs Wade. Too long for Democracy to be protected in a meaningful way.
And certainly too long to realize the young male supporters of Bernie have been going to Trump for decades now because the DNC labeled their very reasonable concerns as just dumb “Bernie Bros” BS instead of “the only voting base that can win American elections.”
I wasn’t exaggerating in my original post, Bernie would have won against Trump by +10 on average according to every general poll conducted before the DNC primary, even by Fox News.
Here are all those polls collected, I’ll bet it’s the first time you’ve ever seen them:
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/trump-vs-sanders
Instead the DNC thought Hillary would still be good enough. And they still haven’t learned why that was a mistake when they thought Biden would be too.
Bernie would have unquestionably won against Trump. Period full stop. You should be furious the DNC made you think Hillary was better when she statistically wasn’t, just like you should be mad at the DNC for making someone with cancer debate a criminal.
You aren’t holding the DNC accountable for shitting the bed ever, so they keep doing it, now to the cost of our Democracy. They literally prefered a Trump president over actual progressive policies, so that’s what we have, and always will with the current DNC.
The difference between me and you is that you’re blaming democrats for everything Republicans do. I supported Kamala, I would have supported Biden, and more people like me would have completely averted this disaster.
It’s kinda funny. They’ll also want their own Rogan, but the guys who fit that bill that are leftist call them out to. The dems just wanted a spokesperson with a cock and they are not getting it.
First male bashing and gaslighting, now that they are desperate they want the votes. They have to fundamebtally chance to drag men back in.
I’m sure Chuck Schumer will get to the bottom of this after he finishes his book tour on antisemitism in America while being completely tone-deaf on the absolute disdain many of us have for our tax dollars supporting a genocide in the 21st century.
Translation: how can we con men into supporting our platform, as opposed to changing our platform to be more appealing to men and younger voters in general?
Dems: Best we can do is racism and abandoning trans people.
Poor US-americans. They get to choose between shit and shit lite.
nononono it’s more like MegaShit9000 and TotallyRottenShit2000🏳️🌈
Fuck off with this anti-gay sentiment, bro even if it’s a joke, not acceptable
Theres no anti-gay sentiment, they are mocking liberal pinkwashing.
The people: Can we have some help?
Republicans: No.
Democrats: No. #blm #lgbt
conserves: best we can do is ban trans people, muslims haitians and legalize racism (also defund the government, department of education so segregation in schools is technically legal, and give lots of money to rich people in tax cuts!)
american voter: [scratches head] ‘gee they are both the same!’
Segregation is schools never went away (partly due to Biden breaking with the party to oppose desegregation), northern areas set up school districts based on the race of the neighborhoods, made easy by redlining, and private schools in the south.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_segregation_in_the_United_States#Segregation_since_the_1960s
yes, private schools were around. And now with the defunding of the DOE its about to become the norm. Well done sir, you’ve literally just explained what I said but made it sound like it was normal. Its not.
applause please for alcoholicorn! They somehow think biden is the reason why the department of education is being dismantled! what a genius this guy is!
applause please for alcoholicorn! They somehow think biden is the reason why the department of education is being dismantled!
Well, he didn’t exactly help, did he?
Yeah, if only he wasn’t obstructed like Obama was at every turn by republicans, then blamed for ‘doing nothing’
the same trick every time. gerrymandering, no nothing republicans standing in the way of progress and tricking people like you into thinking its the democrats faults. Even when they enact policies that they came up with. (tell me the name of the conservative who filibustered his own bill when obama approved it. you wont, because you are a shill)
Yeah, if only he wasn’t obstructed like Obama was at every turn by republicans
You do know Biden as VP was the dog whistle to show the wealthy they could vote for Obama and nothing would get done …
Right?
It’s wasn’t just Republicans that’s stopped M4A, just like back with FDR the “moderates” sided with the Republicans.
Biden said he wanted some things to happen, but never tried because he kept saying he didn’t know if it would work
If you think Biden legitimately put effort in for two years Dems had majority …
Why the fuck did Biden spend so much time calling himself the fucking “Senate whisper”?
His whole deal was he could work with Republicans, and when we got majorities he threw his hands up and said trying would be a waste of fucking time.
If you didn’t pay attention to any of that, the last election must have made no sense to you at all…
Yeah, if only he wasn’t obstructed like Obama was at every turn by republicans, then blamed for ‘doing nothing’
democrats had a majority. They chose not to use it. They chose to break their promises. You only support biden because he sold weapons to netanyahu for you.
It is normal, it always has been, ask 10 white and a few black people from different areas how many black people were in their school. Or just read the wikipedia article.
i live in california, this may surprise you but a large percentage was asian at my schools.
Its not normal to have private schools everywhere and to defund public schools. The only people pushing this are folks who wish to keep poor people (minorities) away from theirs. Since they won’t be able to afford them.
I didn’t ask about Asians. How many black people went to your high-school?
Its not normal to have private schools everywhere
It literally is, it started with the desegregation effort, and any place with too mixed of a black and Latino population for public schools to be along racial lines has had private schools for the last half century.
Can always count on someone who likes genocide support and wants to abandon trans people to stand up for democrats.
can always count on people who “suddenly” care about israels treatment of palestinians which has been going on for decades to fall for conservative lies and manipulations.
Where was your concern about the genocide when it began? Oh right you didn’t give to flying f’s. Only now when you need to dump on democrats do you guys care. You aren’t fooling anyone.
It became undeniable that netanyahu was committing genocide. Biden kept selling him weapons anyway, in direct knowing contravention of the Leahy law.
I get that it’s your favoritest thing ever, but some people have standards other than “no progressives.”
israel has been doing this shit for decades, who do you think blew up the king david hotel? You are conveniently using the palestinians plight now for one and one reason only, to attack the democrats. Its so obvious to anyone with more than 5 brain cells to see.
You have no standards, just puppets to use for your ammunition against people you don’t like. F off with your fake concern, respectfully.
israel has been doing this shit for decades
And you have been supporting it the entire time.
Supplement Mamdani with a Trump-like folk and see it for yourself: Dems do not support socialism, nothing new here
We need a good middle ground candidate. One that can get support from people like Dick Cheney and George W Bush. That’ll get us the young voters.
I really am curious to see what war criminal the DNC trots out next to try and tempt us with. Kissinger didn’t work, Cheney didn’t work, who’s next? They going to have Netanyahu on stage next? Oh fuck they probably will…
Its like they are trapped in this cycle of never ciriticising those before them. Bidens ego is one of the biggest problems we had before trump took his place.
It’s worth remembering that the primary that Biden won was all just a show to sabotage Bernie Sanders and gift the nom to Biden. Worked out very well.
Yeah, apparently we owed that to Biden, or something like that.
In New York City, or in other places?
The fact this is downvoted is crazy… It’s a completely legitimate question and the first thing I asked myself when I read this.
It’s downvoted because everyone is tired of centrists’ excuses for shutting out progressives.
It’s called “voting in primaries” and it’s how people outside of NYC shut down progressives. Popularity in the most liberal of liberal cities hardly represent a country that voted for trump twice.
It’s called “voting in primaries”
Democrats successfully argued in court that they don’t have to run honest primaries.
They sued multiple candidates off the primary ballots in 2024, making sure that only one candidate was on all 50. And then appointed Harris without a primary. Primaries mean nothing to them
I’m not sorry that their attempts to stop Mamdani failed to keep him from winning the primary. Not all candidates can get past the party’s constant anti-progressive fuckery. We’ll see if the party’s attempts to keep their own candidate from winning in the general fail.
I doubt he’ll lose, he really is running a great campaign and NYC seems to like him a lot. Which cannot be blindly extrapolated to the rest of the country.
Which cannot be blindly extrapolated to the rest of the country.
Progressives can’t win anywhere until they do. Then they can’t win anywhere except where they just won. Convenient for people who don’t want progressives to be permitted to run under any circumstances.
Progressives can win in very progressive regions and have been doing it for decades. Bernie has been a senator for decades, but lost by a wide margin to Clinton. AOC has been a representative for a while. The country just ain’t that into it as a whole, they prefer a convicted criminal to a progressive.
What does +n favourability mean?
There’s 100 people in the room
10 think you’re annoying, 80 love you, 10 dont care
A “net” when talking numbers is the difference, so you would have a net favorability of 70%. Because it’s the people who like you minus the people who dislike you, and no one cares about the people who don’t care.
Quick edit:
I didn’t check if that 73% is real or just to make a point, but if it is, 73% net favorability is obviously insanely popular. Cracking 50% overall is pretty much considered a shoe in
There’s no percentages mentioned
The left wants leftists not conservatives cosplaying as liberals
TBH I’m not really convinced, because in the face of Trump 2.0 the left decided to stay the fuck home in 2024.
Maybe the left is being misled into thinking what they want isn’t running for office, and with such a blatant 100% alignment candidate like Mamdani running for the DNC they have to come up with reasons to continue hating on them “Mamdani is different! Actually, they all secretly hate Mamdani!”
Wha…
Mamdani is the DNC candidate. Why is he telling himself he won’t endorse himself in this fanfic?
He literally went to breakfast with the literal federal DNC congressmen this week and after that they’ve been retweeting each other things like "Proud of our Democratic nominee for NYC Mayor. Let’s win!”
JFC with this constant imaginary divide between the “evil corporate dnc”, ya’ll are smelling smoke and screaming fire when you’re actually just having a stroke.
Stop gaslighting progressives just because your wing of the party is lobbing Islamophobic hate at Mamdani.
You honestly don’t get?
Like. This isn’t a bit you’re doing, you legitimately don’t understand?
Understand what? That we’re supposed to accept the smears of people like Jeffries and Gilibrand as “endorsements” just because centrists want to maintain the ridiculous fiction that party leadership doesn’t work against progressives?
I only saw your comment because I signed in after the page loaded.
So I’ll go ahead and answer your question:
That the people currently smearing Mamdaninarent “the party” they’re the ones whose wing just got the boot from the DNC. That’s why they created project 29, they’re desperate for Dems to focus on something they control, and they don’t control the DNC anymore.
The way the DNC (the party) is structured, is the Chair has 100% control and zero accountability.
In February Ken Martin was seated chair.
Here’s what “the party” is saying about Mamdani:
Amna Nawaz:
What do you take away from Zohran Mamdani’s New York City mayoral Democratic primary win? Are there lessons there for the party or the races?
Ken Martin:
Well, first, it was a brilliant campaign. And there’s a lot of lessons.
One is, he campaigned for something. And this is a critical piece. We can’t just be in a perpetual state of resisting Donald Trump. Of course, we have to resist Donald Trump. There’s no doubt about it for all the reasons we just talked about. But we also have to give people a sense of what we’re for, what the Democratic Party is fighting for, and what we would do if they put us back in power.
And that’s really critical. And I think that’s one of the lessons from Mamdani’s campaign, is that he focused on affordability. He focused on a message that was resonant with voters, and he campaigned for something, not against other people or against other things. He campaigned on a vision of how he was going to make New York City a better place to live.
I think that’s one of the lessons. The other lessons, of course, is the tactics he used to get his message out, both a very aggressive in-person campaigning, meeting voters where they’re at, and then also in those digital spaces, using very creative messaging to cut through the noise and to get to voters in an inexpensive but authentic way.
There’s a lot to learn from that campaign, and I’m excited to learn more.
For now at least, the party is back on the side of the people.
And that’s not even getting into the other stuff he’s doing. You won’t hear it on MSM, because MSM is owned by billionaires. They’d rather have a third trump term than a progressive.
Don’t fall for their propaganda that today’s DNC has anything to do with the DNC from 2024 and earlier.
The DNC under Martin kicked out David Hogg and pulled out all the stops for sex pest cuomo. He’s not the savior you’re touting him as.
For now at least, the party is back on the side of the people.
They got a funny way of showin’ it.
