This was a drag and drop web page visual composer based on Firefox and the latest version I found is from over 13 years ago. If this project was continued could be so helpful for the indie web right now, specially for someone like me. I really struggled to get my page a descent layout by raw code but could just be so easy doing it directly on a visual program rather than writing code and see if it works in the live preview

  • Ephera@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    I have never heard of this software before, but 13 years ago sounds like it didn’t survive the shift towards smartphones.

    Basically, in the 2000s, most people looked at webpages through desktop computers or laptops, which had a certain screen size at minimum.
    Many of these webpage builder programs therefore just had you placing boxes on a grid which was roughly that minimum size, allowing your page to be viewed on any screen with the same or larger size.

    Then smartphones happened and had a significantly smaller screen size. While it theoretically still works to build a webpage for the smallest screen size, the size difference is just far too big for it to still be ergonomic on desktop.

    All of web development at that point switched from fixed pixel sizes to a rule-based approach that would allow for different layouts based on screen size.
    And in particular for these webpage builder programs, this was a significant step up in complexity, because you needed to come up with some intuitive UI for users to enter these rules. I imagine, most of these programs never got updated to support the new paradigm and it was rather newly implemented programs that took their spot.

    • Kyoko (Drakon)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      I see, can get it now, but I still wish it persisted because could be neat not needing to code simultaneously on both css and html when I’m not much into coding, I don’t even know how JS works for web development, but is everywhere and its like a whole program language so integration with web becomes harder for me. I know there’s layout makers but most of them paid and the only free one I got has a freemium model when the code editing is totally pay blocked, and even ignoring that the resulting code on that software was a total mess so I couldn’t edit anything with external programs either

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    1 month ago

    What about Composer from the SeaMonkey Suite? Which was derived from the Mozilla Application Suite from which Firefox and nvu (which got forked into KompoZer) stems from?

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      1 month ago

      I didn’t knew that it existed, does mozilla still delievers that stuff? Because the others option for visual web composing is rocketcake which free versiion blocks code editing and the code is a mess with that method lmao