• Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    I think it’s the same ship if “the same ship” means shape, style, performance, etc. it retains the same form but has been fully repaired

    Kinda like how cars come off of the production line are all made out of different parts but are “the same car” and by extension when they’re subsequently crashed and fully rebuilt by YouTube channels!

    Edit: for context’s sake, I think the article is the same as well. Different phrasing to get the same point across on the same page/url

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        12 days ago

        If it’s the same model of drivetrain, like a replacement one, I’d say yes.

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              12 days ago

              how about if i’m adding pop up headlights and t-tops through which to better express my personality (pop up headlights and t-tops are cool)

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                12 days ago

                Same deal, if the car had them before, it’s mostly the same car. If it’s a modification, it’s a more different car.

                What it comes down to, for me, is the difference between repairing/replacing and modifying. Keep doing the latter and you are definitely going to have a different car.

                Pop ups and t-tops are very cool though.

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        12 days ago

        Admittedly the car example isn’t the best because of all the complexities lol, I would say even if you did an engine swap it’s still the same car

        With me, it’s the body and frame that dictates the car. You buy the car, you can swap the engine and legally it stays the same car (you don’t have to re-register it as a new car)

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      11 days ago

      Fun fact: German actually has a distinction between these two meanings of the same. “Dasselbe Schiff” would be the ship itself, and no other ship, even if it is the same. “Das gleiche Schiff” is another ship that is the same.

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      12 days ago

      It’s an interesting example, it’s not unheard of in rare old car circles to “restore” a car from a few parts, like literally starting with a fender and building an entirely new car from there.