They don’t make those distinctions anymore. It’s all about being rich and fuckin’ the poor.
Whats with the ableism though??? Completely unecessary and out of left field
So you’re cool with the racism and antisemitism, but ableism is where you draw the line?
Autosomal monosomy is generally lethal.
The person posting the comment may be an actual Nazi who is mad about the intermingling of races and religions 🤷♂️
Huh?
Which part? Because he is a garden gnome and traditionally the ruling class has been fairly inbred over the centuries. Clearly the inbreeding and gnomes in the FBI prove the opposite.
I think it’s pretty progressive of them to hire inbred garden gnomes.
The part where the OP equated having a missing chromosome with being mentally deficient.
And for the record, the only full monosomy in living people is Turner Syndrome, and it doesn’t generally affect intelligence.
Its clearly a stab at people with trisomy. Being too stupid to know the actual reason is no excuse.
I don’t get the missing chromosome part to be honest. If it were an additional chromosome, I’d understand and would have thought it ableist too. Can anyone clarify this for me?
I think its some idiot getting confused about trisomy
The guy looks perpetually scared that MAGA is going to notice he isn’t white.
Can’t ever unsee this.
Neither can they, apparently.
I keep getting confused why Captain Kirk is so popular at the moment.
I think it’s because of Charlie trekking across the universe.
The appeal to the manosphere is real.
There’s a book I’ve been meaning to read: Uncivil Agreement by Lilliana Mason.
I’ve heard it’s about how most people should be voting in alignment with their policy beliefs, but when you look at it … more people vote along with how they choose to be identified with even if it hurts them.
Well, shit. Thats just America… and the UK(among others) in a nutshell.
Ladies and gentlemen: Director of the FBI
We have the watch? Is that supposed to be a Game of Thrones reference?
This is more like a case of missing braincells.
missing chromosomes doesn’t turn you evil
I think it’s their physical appearance that is being referred to. Patel looks perpetually surprised and slightly off while Kirk looked like the witch doctor fucked up while shrinking his head.
That’s ableism. These people don’t look the way they do and don’t act they way they do because of any genetic disorder. They also aren’t going to fucking see this so the only people being insulted by this are people who are disabled, great job.
We’re talking about actual fascists here and you guys are insulting with eugenics and appearance ffs.
Thank you for saying this. We have more than enough reason to shit on these assholes for their actions and rhetoric; there’s absolutely no reason to use ableist language.
In a similar vein, I’ve seen a lot of “weaponized” homophobic language on Lemmy (often in regards to Putin and Trump). Like you say, the only people who get hurt by this are the random queer people who read these comments.
Yeah this is very apparent all over social media. It’s the consequence of liberals who think disagreeing with the overt fascism seen in MAGA allows moral purity in their actions. They don’t actually interrogate internalized values they hold from capitalism and settler-colonialism that devalues groups of people, they just know which groups are more or less “wrong” to target. They feel emboldened by a visible and decisive enemy, which makes them less self-conscious about the bigotry they foster uncritically.
👏👏👏 I am so sick and tired of people claiming “the gloves are coming off” and by “gloves” they mean their slurfilter
“Hrm. Why did only the face shrink? Was the cauldron too hot?”
This is the funniest thing I have read in a long while 😂🤣🤣
You’re using one flavor of bigotry to disparage another flavor of bigots?
Too many people like this unfortunately. I respect the ones who learn when pointed out and stop. The ones who double down are the worst.
On one hand, yeah, not cool.
On the other, it’s the kind of shot that just might land in the fanbase of these wankstains. It attacks and smears them in terms their supporters understand. Just pointing out the hypocrisy doesn’t work if the audience doesn’t care for reasonable argument, but by speaking their language, there’s some chance it will get under their skin.
It’s a disgusting move in a disgusting fight. There are no winners here, and the best I can hope for is that it’ll hit the right people harder than the collateral damage hits the wrong ones.
Why is insulting and getting under their skin so important? Is trolling them gonna change their mind? Are minorities literally less important than trying to make fascists feel insulted?
It’s not, it’s not and they’re not.
On a strategic level, there may be some merit to the hope of splitting them and turning them against each other. Their ideology builds on appearance of strength and masculinity, and any political movement hinges on unity. Getting under their skin about their prominent figures might weaken their support.
There is also a slim chance that pointing out the nonsense might break someone out of their cognitive dissonance (like it did with me), but I’ll concede it’s very slim indeed.
Even with all this, the question “how much collateral damage is it worth?” is a tough one. I would hope that them wasting their time and energy on each other might spare others some of their wrath, but it’s impossible to measure and hard to gauge the net effect on hurt dealt to the undeserving.
So no, just the insult wouldn’t be worth it. The potential strategic effects turn it into a weapon, but just like with physical weapons, it would be better if it never saw use. The ends may offset some of the hurt, but we shouldn’t think of it in terms of justification so much as mitigation.
And the last line is just superfluous, hurtful without any redeeming quality at all. Fuck that shit.
Oh i was talking about the last line only. Which is also the title of the post
I’m assuming he’s had his thyroid checked but maybe they should check again…
Ableism. What a funny joke dude. Could you explain what specifically they’re referring to about missing chromosomes that would make someone a fascist?
name one person with missing chromosome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_syndrome
The joke is very obviously referencing Down Syndrome, with the joke you mentioned in another comment being some sort of subversion of expectations by having the gene duplication mistaken, except there are diseases with gene absence as the root cause.
Punching down at disabled people is some chud shit.
Anyone with Turner syndrome (fully or partially missing X chromosome)
The ones useful for empathy and intelligence.
Eugenics, nice. Total own dude you really got me.
Isn’t the bigoted insult supposed to be extra chromosomes?
Too few or too many usually has the same general effects–ain’t good for viability, and if you get past that often an Intellectual Disability. Though I will say that some of the coolest people I know have an Intellectual Disability.
this is why this is funny… but most people here want a rightful white knight fight, instead of reading
“White knight” is such a tell. What’s next? Redpilled?
Or it’s way too close to ableism, which is something we should not use, no matter the opponent.
It’s not too close, this is ableism.
Serious question, we can call people idiots, but retard was very no-no a couple of years ago on mainstream media. Both are old medical terms for the intellectually challenged, I’m not a native speaker and I just would like to know if either is “okay” to use for when someone is “stupid”, like here where they at least act stupid.
What you’re referring to is the historical use of a term compared to its contemporary or colloquial meanings. “Idiot,” was indeed used in the past to refer to people with disabilities or mental illnesses, that is very much not the dominant understanding of its meaning today. “Idiot,” today has the meaning of poor intelligence or foolishness, but is not associated with conditions that people imagine result in those poor qualities.
Something like the “r” word is very much associated with mental, genetic, and learning disabilities that are, by its very use, argued to be the cause of the victim’s perceived poor intelligence. They’re calling the person that word regardless of whether they think they have any disorders because they associate those disorders with poor intelligence and also poor social value. It being an insult is dependent on the devaluing of disabled people.
“Idiot,” or “stupid,” do not carry those connotations in culture, they’re only insults referring to the intelligence of the individual(s) they are directed at.
With all that being said, it’s often seen as low-class or immature to resort to these insults at all. You should never use the “r” word as it is a slur directed at an extremely vulnerable group of people and its use reinforces their devalued status.
Thanks for the thorough explanation!
That’s what I thought roughly.
Why are you self censoring words like that?
Anyways thanks again!
True, that was actually poor wording on my part.
No I’m not trying to say that you’re wrong, I’m just asserting that there isn’t doubt as to whether this is ableism. I don’t want that to discourage you from pointing out bigotry when you see it.
I understood that, and I will continue to point it out, don’t worry about it. But your precision was necessary.
So can I ask: is it acceptable to edit this screenshot to not include the ableist part (just crop out the whole Avengers part honestly, it’s not funny anyway) and take out the handles of the posters, and repost? Or is that poor form?
Maybe post it wherever you’re going to post it with the first line as the title? Wouldn’t want anyone to seek out the original tweet and bring traffic to this guy’s ableism, best to pretend it doesn’t exist.
Edit: or do that thing that meme reposters do and just put the text over a white background with the original tweet (see below for an example)
Example
(pretend the crayon is a tweet)
:::Memes are a form of cultural transmission. They’re like a type of public art, meant to be freely shared, edited, and otherwise played around with by whoever. It’s how memes morph and evolve over time.
All this to say, you can probably go ahead and make the meme yours if you wish.
huh. are we going fast and sloppy or are we being artisans? because i would agree that it’s acceptable to remove the ableism, but we’d want to keep the date, right? do we black box it or do we cut out the middle?
