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    Spouse comes from a family believing in this shit. They have a go to doctor for regular health issues (that one seems to be okay) and one for the bad issues (that’s the fraud).

    I’m sick for > 5 years now so I’m at the stage where I try everything if it doesn’t seem to kill me so about 3 years ago I went to see him.

    It was wild (quantum physics are easy to use and he heals his grandchildren in Africa regularly, pendulums and quartz stones were used, he shoved me around a few times, …) and in the end he explained that I’m suffering from worms that can’t be detected with school medicine tests. His treatment was as follows:

    • No alcohol and caffeine for two weeks so he can remotely undo my corona vaccine
    • Taking a few drops of his medicine daily so he can remotely attack the worms through this

    The whole session was expensive as fuck and I had some very long talks with my spouse about this afterwards. He stopped giving money to this guy now, after the fraud doctor started to call him and say he saw that my spouse is becoming sick (fraud dr has a drop of spouse’s blood and claims it changes when spouse becomes sick) and that he needs to start his remote therapy…

    If you can speak German or are willing to translate: behold fraud dr website

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      I saw the term “bio resonance” and immediately knew that this ostensible medical practitioner couldn’t get in touch with reality if they used a special reality-seeking pole constructed from a thousand dousing rods.

      I used to work adjacent to the medical field, close enough to have to deal with a certain kind of medical practitioner a lot. For some reason, that part of medicine attracts people who believe in the supernatural so I’m familiar with bullshit from anthroposophy to quantum healing.

      That shit gets real wild real fast. Bio resonance is already terrible (it’s basically the same kind of bullshit Scientology’s “E-meters” pretend to do but now as a “therapeutic” device with thirty buttons). But the worst must be quantum healing.

      In quantum healing, actually seeing the patient in person is not necessary. Neither is knowing a lot about the patient. In fact, the less the practitioner knows, the better. Just give them a picture and a really vague description of the symptoms and the person (or pet; it “works” for those, too), and the practitioner will do something at some point in the future that will have some positive effect on either the person or the universe as a whole, even if it’s not obvious. Source: Trust me, bro.

      And they charge real money for that shit. Real medical practitioners who went to real university and have a real degree in human medicine.

      Absolutely incredible.

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        What’s even wilder is, that at some point I had the “pleasure” to meet someone who was a self proclaimed “expert on radioactivity”. This man walked around with a stick waving it around and then measuring radioactivity in percent. He then proceeded to bury a bowl in the field to trap all sorts of radiation in there and cleanse all radioactivity from the nearby area in it. It was god damn awful to see my parents paying actual money for this man.

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      The no alcohol and caffeine could actually help. It’s worth a shot at least if you still have ongoing issues. Not that this hack deduced anything accurately, but that probably does help a lot of people, and then he gets to take credit for it. It’s cheaper than free to try, though you’ll probably have some headaches for a few days if you have a bad caffeine dependence, like almost all of our society has.

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        Generally if you’re talking to someone with a chronic illness, and you think you have an idea of something that might help: A, it won’t, and 2, they’ve already tried it or C, they physically can’t.

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          Sure, it probably won’t work, but it can literally do nothing but help. Even if it doesn’t help with the specific issue they’re talking about, maybe the figure out it helps with something else. Getting off harmful drugs often has beneficial effects. (I’m a caffeine and alcohol user too. This isn’t me looking down on anyone.)

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          I was overweight my whole life. Never tried fasting, dieting, or exercise. Suddenly did at the age of 24 and would you look at that? Constantly doctors telling me, even my diabetes was confused which one it should be, then the life of my love appeared before me.

          It’s better to extend a hand of help in kindness, and possibly corrected, than it is to do nothing at all.

          Assumptivity only helps those who have been helped.

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      I thought my dad was crazy because he thought rubbing his fingernails together would regrow his hair (he’s bald like Mr. Clean).

      This is the truly wacky shit right here though.

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        Desperate people are so willing to believe… I guess that goes for some bald people too :/

        I know a few people who got their hair transplanted to their heads and are very happy with it. JIC your father gets tired of rubbing his nails someday.

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      wow and in Germany too. You would think a good level of nation-wide education would solve such problems. seems like not.

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      Wow, this doctor is definitely not suffering from low self esteem. What a hack. Hey, hope you will get better soon!

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      I’m pretty sure I already saw an article where a guy replaced his table salt with some other form of sodium because chat gpt suggested it. He ended up giving himself a disease that’s been mostly eradicated in the modern day.

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        A poisoning that’s rarely seen anymore but used to be more common. The heaps of data on bromism over the decades must not have made it into the training data.

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        Yup, he was eating sodium bromide instead of sodium chloride. Any significant amount of bromide is not good for ya.

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      “You could totally use quantum crystals to heal your cancer, would you like me to get a list of effective crystals?”

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      I hate it how people are willing to trust any shady person in the name of alternative medicine. Sure, regular medicine has it’s flaws, but the solution is better research, not alt medicine peddled by the shadiest people imaginable.

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          “But this supplement was just researched and developed by an exceptionally clever homeschooling mom who wanted to take on big pharma!”

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          Germany has an incredibly high prevalence of homeopathy being prescribed by doctors. A german friend told me people have been sued for publicly stating homeopathy doesnt work- I asked them to send me their source, I’ll post it when they do!

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    Not homeopathy but I once saw a video where someone tried to use quantum physics to justify manifesting. Grifters gonna grift.

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    People pushing homeopathy should be forced to undergo mandatory reeducation.

    Shit like this is what gulags were invented for.

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      Also, maybe we should collectively stop invoking Feynman’s name? I’ve heard he wasn’t exactly a fine man

      Still a scientist that can’t and shouldn’t be erased from history.

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        Most of the criticism comes from a chapter in “Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman!” where he does some things close to what we now call PUA shit. In other words, picking up women at a bar by acting like an asshole.

        Feynman also called it off after a test because he didn’t want to treat women that way.

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      quantum entanglement implies no such thing, stop reading garbage.

      also what’s cancelling a man who died in the 80s going to accomplish for literally anyone? he was a historic scientist who made important contributions to his field. absolutely tell the truth about the kind of person the man was but “shut up about feynman bc feynman bad” is a fucking brain dead take.

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      Oh yeah he was definitely an abusive piece of shit and there are far better people to cite.

      Oh wait piefed people can’t see this because the developer of the piefed fork hard coded it to block hexbear while still forcing us to see comments from their instances.

      Boycott piefed until this is rectified.

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        Oh wait piefed people can’t see this because the developer of the piefed fork hard coded it to block hexbear while still forcing us to see comments from their instances.

        yeah fuck that. why do we stay federated with them if they blocked us? they’re just cynically manipulating how federation is supposed to work. if they cant see our replies why should we be subjected to their runny libshit? no offense or hate directed to s@piefed.world, their above comment is fine but i am sick of smug piefed libs and even chuds stinking up a thread and then seeing hexbear people take the time to write good explanatory replies and not knowing that the person they are responding to will never even see.

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      yeah yeah I’m sure quantum mechanics makes us all immortal if that makes you feel better 🤣