I’ve lost the ability to detect whether this is a real quote or not.
It’s real, sadly, I watched it, my parents in law was watching the stupid statement and I joined them. It was yuck
When I started reading the quote, I assumed it was a joke, just from the format, not the content. When I got to the part where it said, “It used to be called the Department of War and it had a stronger sound,” I felt the typical disgust and contempt I usually feel when listening to Trump, and so I knew it was almost certainly a genuine quote.
Anyone care to enlighten us? Because I honestly can’t tell, either.
You can always trust the fact Trump is a monumental moron.
Setting aside my Trump hate for a moment: this is a good thing. “Department of Defense” was always a euphemism. “Defense spending” my ass. Let’s call it what it is and then see if Americans feel as good about spending so much on a “Department of War” versus “Defense.”
Thinking like that its a good thing right up until the voters are actually stoked about a department of war.
Guarantee it wont be long until youre seeing red hats going off about how cool it is they finally have a department of war as if its a whole new thing.
“Remember how much ass we kicked with only a defense department? Look out world! MIGHTY TRUMP finally made a department of war too!”
I’m sure you’re right about a certain segment of people. I don’t think the euphemistic name is holding those people back from loving the military though.
I do think it’s hard for Congress to sell the general public on “cuts to our defense” though, and cuts to the “Department of war” will be an easier sell.
This isn’t a good thing because it’s not an effort to be more honest, it’s a signal of future intent.
How does this future intent differ from current reality?
The future intent is a bad thing. Signaling it clearly instead of euphemistically is arguably a good thing.
Do not underestimate this country’s propensity to proudly engage in jingoism. Just look at our history to see how that went.
There’s a reason why after WWII the Department of War was renamed Department of Defense.
We weren’t at war. We’re not currently at war, either. Chester’s gotta ask Congress to rubber-stamp a war first.
That’s some very antiquated and naive logic. NONE of these conflicts involved a formal declaration of war:
Korean War
Vietnam War
Persian Gulf
Afghanistan
Iraq War
So you’re going to tell me we weren’t at war for any of those? Bullshit. There’s been plenty of work for a Department of War in the US since WW2.
I mean that after WWII, the public sentiment was “We’re done with war. Whew!” That’s exactly why officially declaring war and using the war powers workaround was used in ever example you gave.
It was the Department of War for 150 years before 1947 when Truman changed the name.
We weren’t at war. We’re not currently at war
lol ok.
Officially, as declared by Congress.
The files ARE the distraction
are you going to post this every time now?
Is it bad that my thought was “well at least that’s more accurate”?
My mind went to how “the department of defense” was Orwellian AF. I mean his reasoning is fucked don’t get me wrong.
I absolutely agree with you and surprisingly, Trump on this.
Broken clock and all.
You can tell he’s never read 1984, he’d definitely want more ironically named government departments if he had
I mean, “Truth Social” has all the irony of the Ministry of Truth, though I assume if it was named for that reason it wasn’t thought up by him.
Yeah, in this rare instance, I agree with Uncle Donny. The US hasnt fought a war for peace or defense in over 75 years. Might as well change the name to more accurately depict its purpose. He is still a moron though…
Well, technicallly it’s defense of private interests…
Even WW2 wasn’t a war of defence for the USA. The only thing they “defended” was a military outpost in the middle of the pacific.
You mean revert back to it’s original name.
If he’s the moron, what do you call the 77 million who voted for him. Twice.
Cultists.
It was the “War Department” from 1789 to 1947.
And also the Department of the Navy was its own thing for a while, as was the Department of the Army, then Air Force, before getting folded into the War Department. Harry Truman dissolved the War Department in 1947 because 1) WWII was over and so the US was not in a declared war anymore, and 2) there was a larger consolidation of war powers under the SecDef post-war.
If anything, name it the Department of Violence and Death and see how people react.
It’s the same reason Captain America beats people up with a shield.
It’s hard to think of yourselves as as a saviour otherwise.
History lesson for anyone who needs it, including occupants of the White House: The Department of Defense was created in 1947 by merging the Department of War, the Department of the Navy, and the recently formed Department of the Air Force. Prior to the merger, the War Department managed only the Army. The name Department of Defense was political: it didn’t reuse any of the names of the former departments, so it couldn’t be seen as one absorbing the others, i.e. the Army absorbing the Navy and the Air Force they had just spun off from the Army Air Corps.
Also in a way it’s not made our jobs easier. It’s difficult to argue cutting “defense” funds, but it’s a lot easier to be against a “war” department.
Remember: 77,284,118 people in this country thought this fucking spray-tanned baboon was fit to lead.
And they STILL think this. And before Canadians get all smug, look at how popular Smith and Ford are and how Poilievre got elected by a landslide in AB. The more Doug grifts, the better he does in polls.
King Charles called and said stfu AB. true story. First Nations were there too and I think they were filling in the eviction notices
Also AB conservatives won that same riding in the main election too. they are still short the riding pp lost in the first place.
By the by he’s not regained the lead of the party…yet.
Before libs get all smug… They still think kamalacaust and genocide joe were real alternatives.
I think we are all well aware that we are surrounded by idiots. We live here.
Some of us more than others.
God I fucking hate Louisiana.
Ok, now do the numbers for the other fascist.
He doesn’t understand the negative connotations behind it and why one of the main branches of the empire needs to be obfuscated in euphemism? I kinda believe the mental decline rumours now, lol, or maybe he’s just testing the waters to see if Americans still have that bloodthirst like the good ol’ Bush days, idk.
I think he just likes to dangle something controversial and shiny in his left hand so you forget he’s hiding the Epstein files behind his back with the right hand. He def knows how to rustle the left’s jimmies, unfortunately.
I think he is just that simple of a man.
Defense is not aggressive and therefore bad. War sounds aggressive so it’s good.
That’s it. That is the whole thought process of this simpleton.
No, stop treating him like he’s some sort of brilliant conman. He’s never been. Even his own sister has said that he’s a moron - his entire plan consists of “I wanna”. I want it to be the Department of War, I want to be the one launching wars, I want to be the guy pushing the Big Red Button. He’s a narcissist, and narcissists rarely tend to think more than a step or two ahead. They assume everyone’s dumber than them, and they can rarely be dissuaded from this.
I agree he’s far from brilliant, and I really mean his admin more than him alone. There are some real insidious people with his ear
There are some real insidious people with his ear
Unfortunately not in a Tarantino fashion.
Hey, what’s going on?
mental decline
Are you forgetting he remembered “person, woman, man, camera, TV” that one time?
president of peace, everyone /s
“we want offense too”
The obese imbecile being alive is offensive. The fact that it breathes is offensive.
And the fact that it’s not strapped to a guillotine that’s got a blunt rusty blade is fucking offensive!That’s very graphic
And necessary.
Not relevant to trump, but: it is ironic that we (the US) haven’t fought a genuinely defensive war since 1812, and we only managed a draw in that one (which included our capital being burned to the ground and our greatest victory coming after it was technically over) because our opponent was busy fighting a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkeys (and only winning because the fucking Germans helped out).
Edit: it’s hard to imagine somebody using the expression “cheese-eating surrender monkeys” and being serious about it, but I guess some people can imagine that.
WW2 was a defensive war?
In the sense of genuinely defending our own country from invasion or destruction? Definitely not. Hawaii wasn’t a state at the time and the Japanese never had plans to invade it anyway.
I feel offended and lauded at the same time
I assume you mean the French?
You do know they’re the most successful military in human history right?
That’s the joke
I don’t think it is but sure, hilarious.
It’s an old Simpsons quote. It was never meant to be any more than a one-off line, as far as I can tell.
The term gained political traction in the US, especially in right-wing circles, when Jonah Goldberg, a columnist for the National Review magazine, used it in the title of an April 1999 column on the “Top Ten Reasons to Hate the French”.[11] In the run up to and during the Iraq War, Goldberg reprised it to criticize European nations and France in particular for not joining the Coalition of the Willing, the United States-led invasion and occupation of Iraq.[2]
You should read what you link, it’s right wing adjacent because right wingers ruin everything fun with a disturbing lack of nuance.
Of course others have taken it to express hatred. But it wasn’t originally meant to be used in that way by the writer, and that’s the point I intended to make. I’m not arguing whether it’s right or wrong, I just noticed that its origin hadn’t been mentioned yet and figured it was worth mentioning.
Of course others have taken it to express hatred. But it wasn’t originally meant to be used in that way by the writer, and that’s the point I intended to make.
The entire point of the joke is that we’re both rude and ignorant and rude out of ignorance.
No it isn’t
Speaking as the person who made the joke: yes, it is.
I dunno why, but I absolutely love it when someone comments “no it isn’t” without a comma and the person comes back with “yes, it is” with comma. Commas do a lot of work in creating tone in text and that example is probably one of the most obvious to notice/cite and one of my favorites. So I guess I have an idea of why after all lmao
Huh, normally I would have omitted that comma myself. I’m not sure why I included it there. I guess it was, as you say, to be even more of a dick to the OP. :)
You do know they’re the most successful military in human history right?
Tell that to Alexander the Second Best!
And on the other side of his mouth he’s saying he thinks he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.
Defense product >> WAR MACHINE
Military Contractor >> MERCENARY
Ambassador >> SPY MASTER
How does one still support a man child like this?
The answer is so simple, they’re all fucking morons.
Be a wo/manchild
I guess if you look UP to something like this, it says a LOT about you. Trump supporters are a special kind of special.
Mostly fear, all the way down.
someone put him out of his misery. its cruel to force him to live like this. cruel to everyone else in the world at least
I’d tell him to look at the flowers but he paved the rose garden.
he rather paint it gold, of which he is obsessed with doing, not even solid or pure gold.
Give him the Crassus
